GUIPO= crybaby scammer!!!!!! /thread

 

ibftmfl! again.

 

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=179897

 

If you have problems - at least just keep them to one thread.

 

thanks mo and christian... its all good because i talked to paypal on the phone and they said they will contact me later today about this more i detail and ill prob end up getting my money back or atleast 97 dollars of it so in the end guipo things come back to haunt yyou....i didnt even ask paypal for money back i just told them ur claiming u didnt get it and they said well we might be able to give you your money back =P

 

There is no proof the OP scammed anyone.

The tracking number is invalid and shows no proof of delivery.

What has been determined is that a refund was given. So while the OP may not have received his item he did receive a refund.

With that being said I move to /thread

 

oh you want proof of shipping okay no problem...

 

thank you now please carry on im tired of people siding with this clown...he got both money and product sent to him now what he did with it is up to him

 

wow again another post... sry cburglb

 

its all good money comes n goes... yes right now im hurting for money and he aint helping but its fine, ill be off in afghanistan soon so thatll give me some nice money

 

I can tell you don't ship often. What you're not understanding is proof of shipment and proof of delivery are TOTALLY different. You shipped internationally, there is an emphasis on proof of delivery. Whether that method be delivery confirmation, etc. What you posted was a receipt that shows you purchased no type of delivery confirmation and no type of insurance. Which means that IF the OP did not receive the item you can't even file an insurance claim so that both parties are compensated for a postal mishap.

I can see why PayPal refunded the buyer, even if he scammed you and he did receive it, the fault is still yours for not purchasing some form of delivery confirmation to, 1st - assure your buyer the item has been shipped and can track it to their destination and 2nd - prevent unnecessary charge-backs.

What you must understand, when selling anything, owning a store, etc. The credit processing company is always going to side with the purchaser in cases where items were not received because it is your job as a seller to provide confirmation or tracking info as well as insure the item.

While you guys are passing the blame around it could just be the postal service that lost the package. Unfortunately since did not purchase any type of delivery confirmation and insurance, you are at a loss to come up with proof so the fault lies with you.

Fault Diagram:

Buyer Buys Item: (Item was paid for, buyer cannot be at fault)
Seller Ships Item & Item is lost: (Item was shipped and purchased delivery confirmation but since the buyer did not purchase insurance, seller is at fault)
Seller Ships Item & Item is lost: (Item was shipped, purchased deliery confirmation and insurance, postal service is now at fault and must pony up the insurance amount when the seller provides an invoice for the contents of the package)

There are more cases but those are the most basic ones.

But what do I know, i've only been selling items on eBay, *cough* Platinum PowerSeller, since 2000, you live and learn, and i'e dealt with every type of scammer to date.

Also, since you sold an item outside of eBay you aren't even liable for items not being as described, all you needed was proof of delivery and the problem would be solved.

The importance of delivery confirmation

 

this is false!!!
I'm a serious person who has been cheated!!!
I haven't received the paypal reimbursment
&
I haven't received the injectors!

I'm a italian boy and you have clans with your American friend. This is unfair.

however this is my last message because it is considered not to feel bad.

Good luck for your nexts purchasing from cburglb34.

 

It shows you received reimbursement, if you haven't, you need to contact PayPal because the case was decided in your favor.

 

I have contacted paypal but although the case was decided in my favor I can't get my money because the seller don't have a money in your account.

with this tread I just wanted to warn people who want to buy from this seller.

 

You're exactly right, funds can only be deducted from the PayPal balance.

 

^ that is true, just because paypal sided with giupo doesn't necessarily mean he was returned the money. has happened to me many times before, paypal sides with me and the people don't have the funds in paypal to pay back

 

Yes, this is my case.

 

However, if he ever sells anything else those funds will go to you 1st, assuming he doesn't owe anyone else. If his account is negative for too long it will be closed and it will go to collections.

 

I do not know what to say .. thanks for the solidarity

 

guipo you need to call them back and fuss at them because the money was deducted from my account thats why im ____ed, and the screen shot i posted shows money came form my account, it put my account in the negatives and then i paid it back so u shoulda gotten the money

money was taken from the account pal..


yea but too bad they already took the money from my account around dec 17 and that my account isnt in negatives hence why i can buy and sekll the like i have been doing

OP just needs to keep hassling paypal cuz paypal sure came after me for the money already n they got it