Ridiculous and old
First, before people start thinking I only made this s/n to post I am going to let them know. YES I DID make this screen name to post. I have been on this forum for months now but by reading this thread, I had to step in and say something. I will probably never post from this user ID again and have to make a new one here soon if I decide to post anything else.
I just bought a used Scion tC and I have always had problems with dealerships in the past with other cars. I hate to do this because I usually never sign up on forums, yet alone post.
Second, Drax, I am truly sorry that you have to go through all this drama and headache. But you need to rethink what is going on.
I noticed you and other people on your side keep jumping back and forth with "the installation being done wrong" and "PTuning should have noticed a damaged syncro". Even if that synchronizer was damaged, it is nearly impossible to tell. There could have been minor fractures on syncro making it nearly impossible to see with the naked eye. Or, it could have just been made weak from the factory. When that happens, it is usually called a "factory defect". Again, you paid them to install the part, not inspect every single little part of the internals.
PTuning is not at fault here.
You claimed that you took the car back which was understandable on your part but when you kept having the problem, and they asked you to bring you car back again, knowing they will look at it for free, you refused. Why may I ask? According to your previous statement, it is because you was afraid of driving the 50 miles to their shop and putting more stress on the transmission, that also being understandable on your part. What I really do not understand, is why you would drive your car for 500+ miles to "allow proper brake-in" but not 50? That sounds a little odd...
The dealership and the gentlemen at Scion Corp. will do everything to point the finger at the other direction. Why? It is because they do not want to have to pay for anything and give your free service because that is just what they do. Also, you may ask, "well, why did the dealership not just put the blame on me?" Thats also simple, they were probably afraid that if they did, you would keep bugging them on that and refuse payment on the work they already did. That way, its less stress and head ache for them, o and not to mention the extra money they made in the process...
Also I recall seeing by many other people on here claiming you auto crossed your car. Anyone who does that, they usually tend to drive their cars hard on the street as well. Don't say you haven't because I am 99.9% positive that all of the people on here has. Also, you are going to say / ask, "well auto crossing only uses first and second gear." This is true but I have seen problems like this happen a lot of different cars. In example, a few of my friends own Evos, one of them auto crosses his car but his 5th and reverse gear went out. When it was shipped out to Shepherd Transmission to get rebuilt, they claimed that it was the synchros were bad causing the gear to go out, same as yours.
I can keep going on and on, but it is late and I have to be up early for work.
Again, I am sorry that I had to make this post but it was getting ridiculous and old.
I am sorry I had to do this, but it was getting old.
I just bought a used Scion tC and I have always had problems with dealerships in the past with other cars. I hate to do this because I usually never sign up on forums, yet alone post.
Second, Drax, I am truly sorry that you have to go through all this drama and headache. But you need to rethink what is going on.
I noticed you and other people on your side keep jumping back and forth with "the installation being done wrong" and "PTuning should have noticed a damaged syncro". Even if that synchronizer was damaged, it is nearly impossible to tell. There could have been minor fractures on syncro making it nearly impossible to see with the naked eye. Or, it could have just been made weak from the factory. When that happens, it is usually called a "factory defect". Again, you paid them to install the part, not inspect every single little part of the internals.
PTuning is not at fault here.
You claimed that you took the car back which was understandable on your part but when you kept having the problem, and they asked you to bring you car back again, knowing they will look at it for free, you refused. Why may I ask? According to your previous statement, it is because you was afraid of driving the 50 miles to their shop and putting more stress on the transmission, that also being understandable on your part. What I really do not understand, is why you would drive your car for 500+ miles to "allow proper brake-in" but not 50? That sounds a little odd...
The dealership and the gentlemen at Scion Corp. will do everything to point the finger at the other direction. Why? It is because they do not want to have to pay for anything and give your free service because that is just what they do. Also, you may ask, "well, why did the dealership not just put the blame on me?" Thats also simple, they were probably afraid that if they did, you would keep bugging them on that and refuse payment on the work they already did. That way, its less stress and head ache for them, o and not to mention the extra money they made in the process...
Also I recall seeing by many other people on here claiming you auto crossed your car. Anyone who does that, they usually tend to drive their cars hard on the street as well. Don't say you haven't because I am 99.9% positive that all of the people on here has. Also, you are going to say / ask, "well auto crossing only uses first and second gear." This is true but I have seen problems like this happen a lot of different cars. In example, a few of my friends own Evos, one of them auto crosses his car but his 5th and reverse gear went out. When it was shipped out to Shepherd Transmission to get rebuilt, they claimed that it was the synchros were bad causing the gear to go out, same as yours.
I can keep going on and on, but it is late and I have to be up early for work.
Again, I am sorry that I had to make this post but it was getting ridiculous and old.
I am sorry I had to do this, but it was getting old.
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