I think that you downplay a turbo's development. A videogame is more complicated of course but it's not affected by climate or anything. But a turbo also has to, in addition to climate, account for physical conditions, natural laws, and ways around it. And don't forget that theres a very small programming bit with each system. The program is already programmed but inputting the correct settings that work best for most people presents a challenge... I think...

You know what? I don't even know. I just know the R&D is not simple and can fall off the turnip truck at any moment.

 

Totally agree with you but at least I don't have to part with over a $1000 while waiting for a videogame so no loss to me if it never gets released.

I'll decide which turbo I will buy when both of them are already out and installed on people's TC. Forget the savings on a pre-order, better than parting with my hard earned money just to wait for my toy. I could probably make up for the pre-order savings if I invest the down payment money for the duration of the wait.

Patience everyone. Some big company like Greddy or HKS might even put something out before ZPI or Jamasco can release theirs. You'll never know, I'll believe it when I can walk into a performance store and buy one personally.

 

I admit I did downplay turbo development a bit but the point I was trying to get across is. They stated that their kit was Done, finalized, ready to be shipped and installed, tested and proven to be reliable. 5 months down the road not a single customer I can think of that pre-order their kit has recieved one yet.

Now you dont see Greddy advertising completion of their kits yet have we? When they do its all ready to be shipped and as soon as you order them, you get them. I know cause a couple of my RSX friends that purchase the Greddy kit never had a single delay. Maybe some problems with installation on the kits but the Reps at Greddy came out and personally fixed the problems for one of my friends.

But dont get me wrong I have been watching the progress of Scionspeed turbo and almost preorder a kit. Its a sweet kit in my opinion, love the way they setup the kit and watching those vids just made my TC begging for their turbo kit.

 

Guys, being an enthusiast myself, I hate delays. We fully understand your concerns. Many of the comments you made are absolutely correct. The same way that some people are upset with us, we are upset at the company who is holding us back from shipping our kits. Bare with us through our growing pains. We have never ripped off a customer in our whole 15 year history. Once this initial learning curve is dealt with there will be no delays.

We sincerely regret any delays.

 

Yes, Jamasco does have a very impressive track of performance and their tC is indeed the fastest in the world as of writing. However, all those bells and whistles does not mean anything to us customer if they can't deliver!
All of us who dealt with online or mail order vendor know how important "on time delivery" is and I can't stress that enough. This is indeed one of the most crucial performance metric for a business. Amazon is a good example. Oh well, they don't sell car parts, but, fundamentally, it's in business for profit in general.

How do you like it if you get jerked around all the time?

"Yeah, send us the freaking money! It'll be ready to ship in two weeks"

"Oh, sorry, the Tsunami hit and we need to go out there and help those poor people. You guys will have to wait till the end of the month"

"People, just want to let you know we need to get one more part before we ship it, just two more weeks okay?"

"You know what, the Tsunami hit again! Dang! The whole shipping department is out to help those people. Sorry!"

How do you like that? We were given hope and let down, and then more hopes and more disappoinment.... It's an unusual punishment especially for those who already pre-order! I read somewhere a poor bro here is losing sleep at night. I mean, why bother to ask the customer to pre-order if they are obviously not ready? It's not against the law but playing around with customer emotion is gonna back fire sooner or later. It is bad enough that even TRD jerked us around. We don't need any more of this.

 

Karma will take care of this all.

 

great thread.

i'm currently saving up for the stage 2 kit.

 

OH EM GEE this is what the Democrats SHOULD be filibustering I feel like I'm about to elect the next President after hearing all that please... no more... no more... Put your pride and your pocket books (wallets) aside. The Scion community doesn't need this.

 

Harman and bubblemyster,

This is not an issue of ever intentionally misleading anyone. Whenever we post a delay, it is due to us being told by someone else that they are delaying us. Remember that although we are a manufacturer, we do not make steel. We do not make silcon couplings. We do not make turbine wheels, nuts, or bolts. This is not an excuse, more like an explanation. We hate having to hold back on shipping while we wait on someone else.

Keep those pre-orders coming in! We will probably accept another 30-35.

DouBleJ16,

We are glad that you are going with us and that you like this thread. I am new to the Scion forums (another staff member was previously posting all of our business related material here) but since I took over these responsibilities, I have had to clear up many issues that had festered! I realize the importance of this forum and have decided to spend more time on here so that you all can have a direct link to Jamasco/Scionspeed anytime.

Regards

 

Looking at the bright side, TRD didn't ask me for a deposit on their SC.

 

bodje,

You are correct. But with 20 years of manufacturing and corporate sponsorship, we wouldn't ask for deposits either. We have doubled in size as a company since we entered the mass-prod market. We WILL be the next big thing. One day you will all look back and say, "Ahh I remember when those guys broke out onto the scene!"

Thanks for the support guys. All comments negative or positive are motivating us towards serving you better.

 

Hey Jamasco when are you expecting your kits to ship?

 

I refuse to buy a product from anyone that is in any way associated with tCtunerz. PLEASE ZPI, for the love of god tell me you're not using them as a vendor.

 

I wouldn't have a problem with ZPI using them as a vendor/distributor, so long as they aren't the *only* choice for vendor/distrib. A vendor is typically a one way relationship...i.e. the manufacturer/producer only gives the vendor parts once they have been paid for, and the vendor then ships them to the consumer.

It'd be like saying, I refuse to buy a Weber Grill because home dept sells Weber Grills, and home depot has screwed so many people over. Weber doesn't have any control over what HD does....just as the suppliers (zpi, scionspeed, weapon r, kaminari, creative compacts, etc etc etc) don't have any control over whether or not Quick screws people over.

However, if Quick is an actual affiliate....i.e. somehow *paid* by ZPI, scionspeed, jamasco, etc, to market said products, you and I are on the same wavelength: end of my business for that company.

 

What's the matter with Home Depot I love that place.

 

nothing...it was an analogy.

 

Oh

Home Depot rules, I wish they sold car parts.

 

I didn't even read the post above but I still stand by what I said. And Home Depot does sell car parts, I see tons of people with intakes and grills from there.

 

I do too... at least the DIY people. PVC SRS make the car pretty damn loud! Don't know about performance though...


Just so you all know, tCtuners is just one of a few vendors. Racing Solutions is also distributing this turbo: buy if from them.

 

Malina, we are not affiliated with tCtunerz. They are not on our payroll or staff. I don't know how many times I have to say this. You seem like a smart guy and I'm sure you read that in our previous posts. There is no need to beat a dead horse. If you want to talk to ZPI, they have a phone number and email address. This thread is about Jamasco and Scionspeed.

Which ones? The first batch or the second?
The first batch should be shipping out soon. Sorry we can't be more specific, but everytime we put an exact date we get slammed. It could quite possibly be earlier than our expected date. Very soon though.

I am working on getting some high quality pics up on this site of our kits!