So my recent post about car swirl is solved and I know the cause of it, its because of relative acidicty/minerals in environment that cause my paint to have swirly crap. So once again I have it because you know it... my wax. So I was wondering what the hell is the point of waxing if I can't keep it waxed/or even looking normal without having swirlys every time there is a rain? Its kind of counterintuitive.

 

I don't know who fed you that line of BS, but the swirls are caused by how YOU wash it.

There is no other way. It's caused by washing your car incorrectly. Nothing in the environment will scratch your paint...

 

Either way your bound to get swirls, the only thing you can really do that wont cost a whole lot is waxing it. Waxing your car provides another layer of protective coating..also that coating covers up your swirls. Waxing is just a bandage.

 

You are definately going to get swirls eventually, but you can also reverse the effects and make it look brand new.

My BSP xB is now a year old and I bet you cannot find a swirl on my hood. This is washing it usually once a week and also dealing with winter and all the salts and crap that go along with it.

My prevention is my PC 7424 and my stash of products. Everything from clay bars, paint cleaners, polishes, waxes, plastic polishes, etc... If you spend one day out of the year doing a deep clean, you can make it look brand new.

All I can say is, the damage is obviously already done and the swirls are there. The quickest way to get rid of them is to buy a paint cleaner / polish combo such as Meguiars #80, or if your paint is really bad, #83. Use a Porter Cable random orbital buffer and do the car after you clay it. Finally, coat it with some NXT or other wax of your choosing.

To prevent more scratches and swirls in the future, use MICROFIBER towels only to dry, wool or microfiber mitts to wash, and use a two bucket method (one bucket just water to rinse, one with soapy water). Also, work from top down, cleaning your mitt regularly.

That is the best way to avoid more damage. With the proper care though you can reverse the effects of what is already done. It's up to you to decide if its worth the time/money.

Here are some pics of my car... Check out the reflections:







If you have any questions just ask!

 

my car is brand new so I don't think there is anything terribly done to it. Its just everytime there is a rain or if the wrong water get sprayed on it, there'll be spots. I can wash it off and wax it and it'll be fine but if it rains again it'll be there again. Only way I figured to prevent this is to immediately dry the car after having water on it but this isn't realistic everytime.

 

So your talking about water spots, not scratches and swirl marks?

I misunderstood what you said before then.

In that case, just get a quick detailer spray. Afterwards just spray the car and wipe. It's not a wax but just a gentle cleaner to remove dust, water spots, etc...

Try it out!

 

microfiber for the car/rims and cotton for your windshield/glass.

a clay bar wash will fix those swirls.

 

ehhhh.... a clay bar will do nothing for swirls fyi.

 

With you there on your processes. The one thing I do a bit differently is I only drip the washing mitt the first time, then after I use the pouring spout to pour the watery solution over the mitt, so no fear of grime.


Farcus, swirl remover is probably going to be your friend, if their are swirls. I use the Turbo Wax Swirl Remover.
http://www.turbowax.com/cat/swirl-remover/

One thing is make sure you only use one cloths for one product, don't mix them up. Always make sure the cloths are clean, the washing machine is fine for this, but DO not use any fabric softener! Don't drop cloths, and try not to put them down whilst in use.

Good luck, let us know how you get on.

 

That sounds like an average quality wax. If you get an average one, sometimes can watermark. Change for a better quality wax. Sometimes to spend a tiny bit more it will last longer and is better quality. So cheaper is often false economy.

Agree again, like you, misunderstood Farcus's first post. Need to be a bit careful with spray wax or quick detailer though, just incase there's any surface grime, or that can cause those dreaded swirls we started out talking about.

 

Polyester however, is weaved within the threads of microfibers. Genuine Leather Chamois, I believe is a much better way to dry if you use it the correct way. If I use a Microfiber, I sometimes dampen the microfiber very lightly with a mist of water before drying. Swirls are part of life, shit happens.
To everyone though that puts effort in maintaining a 'like new' finish w/ Scion paint, I feel your pain.

 

They can be without a good swirl remover.

 

Meh, I kinda remain on the pessimistic side within this subject. Our clear coat is so damn thin that you can only bond the coat back so many times. If you can track the level of the clear coat down to microscopic levels avoiding any uneven shifts within the coat then it's a possibility. Sure you can polish/wax her up 24/7 but over the course of 4-7 years especially w/ a dark paint, swirls are inevitable. If you live in a vacuumed atmospheric chamber where impurities/dust dissapears then you might have a winner or an imploding vehicle.

 

I two toned the top silver, now the hood hides imperfections much better.

Seriously though, I'm not sure how to get rid of actual swirls besides polishing compound and a cordless buffer. Once you're done with that (after clay bar of course to remove the old wax), use a synthetic wax for the new finish. The carnuba might not hold up that well in intense summer heat.

When I wash, I use the Mr. Clean autowash thing. I thought it was gimmicky but gave it a try and it seems to work, no water spots or residue. It has a soap resivour built in as well as a water filter for rinsing. The key is to only wash one section at a time. Spray the soap on, wash, then rinse with the normal water. Once all sections are done, do a final rinse with the filtered water and it just sheets off to dry, no shammy even needed.