LavaBox_v1

What do you mean by best results? how are you gauging your results?

Sciond

oil analysis, gas mileage, and wear when doing a a tear down. As I stated above Mobil 1 is also a good oil..hell I started many years ago using Delvac when nobody knew what synthetics were

LavaBox_v1

Where did you get your facts at ... who did the oil analysis and who did the engine test?

Sciond

hmm lets see. I tore down the motor so vidual inspection, I would say it is commen sense how I can verify gas mileage, and here is the oil test
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/free_test_kit.html
any other questions?

Scion05BOPxB

I'm not doubting you at all, but I would be interested to see scans of the oil analysis. I can't remember the lab I used for my oil analysis, but I've since lost the report.

CBSIMONSEZ

I can tell you that the price difference isnt that much. My local Walmart carries the 3 varities, along with the original Mobil 1. For a gallon container of the old Mobil 1, it was $19.96. For the Mobil that goes 15K miles, it was $28.96. 9$ more for 9K miles more in oil changes. I may look into this after all.

ALTHOUGH, the list of disclaimers was a mile long as far as the Mobil garentee. Wont cover your replacement for this ... that and the other. One of which was long term idling. What is long term? Does that include those of us who have remote starters on our rides? Dont get me wrong, i think that its great that someone is offering an oil that can last a long time. But it looks like its full of loop holes.

LavaBox_v1

Long Term Idling is if you leave your car running for 10 hours and only drive it for 2 hours ... 15min warm up is not considered long idling ... I have sat in traffic longer then 15min ... Long Idling is anything over an hour of sittng and no driving.

The only way you could have done an ACURATE test on the different motor oils is if you had more then one of the same engines and you put them through the same exact conditions ... That is the only way to get an acuate test ... You can't take one sample from one car and one sample from a different car and then see which was better ... And unless you tore down 2 of the same engines with the same milage and the same use then thats no good either ...

Sciond

I wish I had them still.... I did them to see the effect on an engine ran about 16lbs of boost. I wanted to see how well the Amsoil held up

Sciond

That is a good point, however doing it with any other oil than Amsoil scares me. DO you have data comparing the Mobil1 to the other extended drain interval oils?

LavaBox_v1

What type of data are you looking for? Amsoil even says on their site, their Synthetic oil is for 7500 miles or 6 months ...
Here is a direct quote from Amsoil.com
"AMSOIL XL 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil is specially formulated to provide outstanding wear protection, power, fuel economy and performance for 7,500 miles or six months of service. With AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oil, motorists driving 15,000 miles a year need only change their oil twice annually. AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oil offers a high degree of convenience and savings through its ability to perform and protect engines for extended periods."

Here is a direct quote from Mobil1.com
"You've never seen an oil like this before. Mobil 1® Extended Performance is a new high-endurance motor oil with 36 percent more anti-wear additives and 37 percent more cleaning agents than current Mobil 1 formulations. It is a fully synthetic formulation that helps extend engine life, reduce oil breakdown and minimize engine wear -- all while helping to keep your engine clean. Improvements that add up to exceptional protection for 15,000 miles. Guaranteed."

and here is Mobil's SEMI-Synthetic oil
"Mobil Clean 7500, a new synthetic blend motor oil, provides outstanding protection for today’s longer service intervals — with 18 percent more cleaning agents than even Mobil Clean 5000 to protect critical engine parts for up to 7,500 miles under typical driving conditions."

Mobil's SEMI-Synthetic has the same drain intervials as Amsoil's FULLY-Synthetic ... and these are direct quotes from Mobil's & Amsoil's web site ... these are stated facts by each company! Take them as you wish!

shangtsung

It's called marketing bull. I can't believe people, especially "enthusiasts", actually believe this bull. Hasn't anyone ever worked at a company before? Marketing is 99-100% bull, hype, fancy rhetoric and straight out lies. You can change conventional oil every 15,000 miles and the average consumer wouldn't notice a single difference in their car, that's why they can make these claims.

Sciond

your comparing Amsoil's 7500 product to the Mobil extended drain oils..BTW Mobil tried this once before and quit selling it.. why the change of heart do you think?

Sciond

I did 158,000 on my Eagle Vision TSI before I sold it changing oil every 25,000 miles or so and changing the AMsoil filter at 12,000 miles the engine is still in ghreat shape as a friend still has it!..
DOn tget me wrong all these products are good this is just symantics

jct

so is 24.99 for 6 quarts of this stuff a good price???

and its 22.99 for the reg dino oil for 12 quarts

shangtsung

IMO it's better to change your oil twice as much with dino than it is to change once as much with synthetic.

claybo1708

Amsoil recommends their drain intervals [b][u]even if the vehicle is still under warranty!!! MobilExxon DOES NOT. They say follow manufacturer's recommended drain interval.

Other BIG point---Amsoil has been recommending extended drain intervals since 1972. They were the FIRST to formulate a 100% synthetic API oil.

LavaBox...you need to visit Amsoil's website and check thier warranties...i'll be glad to send you a copy. www.amsoil.com

How long have AMSOIL lubricants been on the market?

AMSOIL introduced the first synthetic motor oil with an API (American Petroleum Institute) Service Classification in 1972. Since that time, AMSOIL has varied and expanded its product line

www.lubedealer.com/lubetexas

Sciond

Now that is crazy......there is no body of research that supports that statement....IMHO synthetic with extended drain intervals is the best and cheapest way to go