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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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I just got my entire car buffed, because of something that got sprayed on it that wouldn't come off. The body shop guy buffed it then he said he used something afterwards that would take out the swirls left behind from the buffing. Ummm my car looks like one big swirl it almost gives you a headache too look at it. I would've hated to see what it looked like if he didn't even use the so called swirl remover.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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bring it back and have him fix it
there shouldnt be any swirls if it was done right
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:47 AM
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Well for starters black is gonna be difficult , seems like from the way you are describing the body shop guy either A) Didnt use the swirl remover or B)Did use the swirl remover and royally messed up your paint . At this stage I am gonna say bring it back and complain , there is no reason or explanation as to why a vehicle should look like that coming from a body shop . I had a similar expierence with my vehicle from my dealership and told them to keep it , till the damn thing looked like it was suppose to . The one factor that is gonna be difficult is , the paint on these vehicles are very soft , and usually swirl marks are usually etched in and never really get removed just covered up by most of the products out there . What I did with my situation was I brought the vehicle back during the time of day that the sun really showed the extent of the swirl marks and complained . Either they will get it right or take it to a professional detail place and have the body shop foot the bill . Either way you look at it, your vehicle shouldnt look like that , didnt look like that when you brought it in and it isnt gonna look like that when you get it back .
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:57 AM
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:58 AM
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Bullcrap.

Should be zero swirls. Only an amateur would hand you a car
with swirl marks in it that he had done himself.

If they can't get them out, they owe you a paint job!!
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:59 AM
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it's not a body shop really it's a guy that used to own a body shop that does work out of his garage.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:05 AM
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Hmm from the sounds of it when you say USED to own a body shop and from how you describe your paint I think I know now why he DOESNT own one anymore
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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damn that sucks
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Try a product called 3m imperial hand glaze. It will get rid of the swirls. For everyday polishing and maintenance using zaino will leave no swirl marks, it is really good for black paint.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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to help keep from getting swirls
use 2 buckets one for soapy water and one for rinse water to rinse your wash mitt so you dont rub dirt back on your car and create swirls
and use a quality sheepskin mitt
such as these
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...etail&ct=30057
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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dark colors are the hardest colors to care for... This should be a big factor when choosing a color for your next car...

I wrote this up on how i wash my car... There might be similar posts in other forums though...

http://clubscion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by atticdog
to help keep from getting swirls
use 2 buckets one for soapy water and one for rinse water to rinse your wash mitt so you dont rub dirt back on your car and create swirls
and use a quality sheepskin mitt
such as these
http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...etail&ct=30057
A bit late for that dude, this was done by some hack with a rotory buffer.

Check out the photos in this thread I started:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=68679

I removed the swirls that came in the paint from the factory, plus some that the
dealership put in, not to mention the scratches that just looking at the paint
causes with this cheap assed Scion paint.


Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Huey-

are these swirl marks (actual clear coat scratches) or just swirls that wax will leave behind because it was removed wrong (wrong cloth, or car surface was too hot)? these are too very different problems.
if you don't know - try wetting a small area and drying it w/ a clean microfiber (please make sure the car is clean). or, try re-waxing just a small area by hand. let it haze and then 'wax off' w/ a clean microfiber towel or cotton cloth. sometimes people use a polishing cloth w/ acrylic fibers - it doesn't scratch the car, but leaves a thin coat of wax behind. it looks like what you describe.
if they are actual swirl marks - get him involved again - for money only. you don't want him touching the car. or. try stripping the car, polishing it and re-waxing it. a good polish will remove swirl marks. if it doesn't, then try a swirl mark remover. for a good polish or remover, use 3M or another high end name. you'll spend some money here - if you don't your wasting your time.
don't fret - you can fix this problem.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonely Raven
Check out the photos in this thread I started:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=68679

I removed the swirls that came in the paint from the factory, plus some that the
dealership put in, not to mention the scratches that just looking at the paint
causes with this cheap assed Scion paint.
^^^^

Listen to this guy, he knows his stuff.

-THE DON
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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i think im going to try and find a good polish then wax it.
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lonely Raven
A bit late for that dude, this was done by some hack with a rotory buffer.
I meant after it gets repaired
I also had to remove the swirls the dealer gave me
with my pc and ssr2.5
I also like useing nxt wax
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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One of the absolute best products you can use on swirl marks is NOVUS #2 plastic polish. It is actually used to remove scuffs in clear plastic and return clear optical properties. (also great on scuffed CD's) It is VERY safe and works flawlessly. You can use it by hand or with a buffing wheel. In fact, I just used some to get a small swirl mark out of my xA that the dealer left in my spoiler.

Of course, this guy should fix your problem for you, but I know there are a lot of others out there looking for a good solution to swirl marks and scuffs. The NOVUS #2 polish is much better than rubbing compound because it is very, very fine. I would NEVER ever consider using rubbing compound on a Scion unless I was planning on using it as a fine sandpaper, it's that tough on paint.

The NOVUS #2 polish can be purchased at plastic supply houses. Also, you can find it on the net if you look around.

JC
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