Now there's a great idea!
Anyone got the URL of the Japanese version of Scion-Life?

 

I thought the bB and xB were made right along-side each other in Japan. The paint process should be the same. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Excuse me? I didn't realize that getting angry because of ignorant people not willing to understand what I'm trying to point out was a crime. These boards are an area where people are free to express themselves in any manner. Do not tell me that I should watch my language, because you could not possibly understand how much I've been through with this issue or how many people I've already dealt with along the way. I don't believe in any way that a mutual third party hearing my arbitration case will look at this board and say "well, she swore here, so obviously we can't rule in her favor". Fool.

I do not drive on the beltway. I am already aware of Scion's warranty and their "road hazard" policy, and if you had been reading most of my posts on this subject you would know who I've already talked to at Scion about this and why I'm willing to take this case as far as I am. Furthermore, the 'environment' that the car is driven in has already been compared to several other tC's in the area bought at or around the same time period as mine which show no signs of chipping or peeling paint. Therefore I'm willing to bet that those cars- obviously driven on the same roads and possibly subjected to more highway use- are for some reason not showing the same signs of faulty paint.

99% of the time I wash my car by hand, otherwise it is done by a professional carwash, not the type that leaves swirl marks on paint- I have had plenty of experience with this in the past.

I am not a "spoiled little girl" as you put it. In the ideals of all those at Scion, I am a young working professional who has paid every cent of my cars for myself, and don't appreciate being treated otherwise- especially by those who don't know any better and shouldn't be making a comment in the first place.

Lastly, the pictures I have posted are for my personal use only, and when I go to my case with Scion I am bringing prepared photos and other materials that will be used for my case. I don't think you realize who you're taking such an authoritative tone of voice with, because I am not a naive 'little girl' who needs a talking to because 'I am not getting my way'. If anything, it's people like you that drive people like me to such extremes as a class action suit, and people like you in the end that are left sitting biting your tongue when you are proven wrong. Good day.

 

ouch...I saw that coming from a mile away.

 

touche'

Well said.

 

To quote Kelso on "Thats 70's Show" : Burn! ;)

 

I QUOTE:>>Excuse me? I didn't realize that getting angry because of ignorant people not willing to understand what I'm trying to point out was a crime. These boards are an area where people are free to express themselves in any manner. Do not tell me that I should watch my language, because you could not possibly understand how much I've been through with this issue or how many people I've already dealt with along the way. I don't believe in any way that a mutual third party hearing my arbitration case will look at this board and say "well, she swore here, so obviously we can't rule in her favor". Fool.

I do not drive on the beltway. I am already aware of Scion's warranty and their "road hazard" policy, and if you had been reading most of my posts on this subject you would know who I've already talked to at Scion about this and why I'm willing to take this case as far as I am. Furthermore, the 'environment' that the car is driven in has already been compared to several other tC's in the area bought at or around the same time period as mine which show no signs of chipping or peeling paint. Therefore I'm willing to bet that those cars- obviously driven on the same roads and possibly subjected to more highway use- are for some reason not showing the same signs of faulty paint.

99% of the time I wash my car by hand, otherwise it is done by a professional carwash, not the type that leaves swirl marks on paint- I have had plenty of experience with this in the past.

I am not a "spoiled little girl" as you put it. In the ideals of all those at Scion, I am a young working professional who has paid every cent of my cars for myself, and don't appreciate being treated otherwise- especially by those who don't know any better and shouldn't be making a comment in the first place.

Lastly, the pictures I have posted are for my personal use only, and when I go to my case with Scion I am bringing prepared photos and other materials that will be used for my case. I don't think you realize who you're taking such an authoritative tone of voice with, because I am not a naive 'little girl' who needs a talking to because 'I am not getting my way'. If anything, it's people like you that drive people like me to such extremes as a class action suit, and people like you in the end that are left sitting biting your tongue when you are proven wrong. Good day. <<< End quote.



First and foremost. . .
I would suggest, don't ever call someone that you don't know, a "Fool." THAT I am not, other than to stoop to your level to respond to your tirade and posting, to begin with.
This will be the last time that I do this.
As you stated, this forum is for "expressing", yes, but, to start flaming someone as you are, yes, you ACT like a'spoiled little girl that is not getting her way.'
Case in point. . . the way you responded to MY post. (See above.)
As for "someone who doesn't know any better. . . ." Ouch. Stop it. That hurt.
Little girl. . . You are defintely acting like a spoiled little BRAT.

This I know, because I have kids older than you are. Guaranteed.

The comment I made about your photos was to emphasize that in your post, you are directing EVERYONE that sees your post (in this forum) to view pictures of your car, when in fact, you have more pictures of yourself posted, than photos of your car!


This post (as yours was) is MY opinion. If you don't like it, TOUGH CRAP.
For the record: I have logged over two million [plus] (yes million) miles on vechicles from Toyota, Ford, Chevrolet, Honda, Scion, Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth.
I KNOW about vehicles, maintenance, rapair, paint and body work. Been there. Done that. I have probably painted more cars than you have years, in your short life.


I sincerely hope that you get the 'attention' that you are seeking.

Have a nice life.

 

Please...back to the topic at hand. This looks like it could be a serious issue with our paint if it is widespread.

 

I have an Azure Pearl TC and YES my paint is chipping BAD too , especially in the front of the car. I will email sum pics soon. Good Luck!! I planned on goin to the dealership this week and seeing if the warranty will cover the paint chips and I will let everyone know wut i find out about it. Good Luck!

 

ditto. well, everthing but the detailer part - i'm a designer. a very **** designer. my box is babied - washed (correctly), chamois, microfiber, wax (zymol), garaged, dusted... you get the idea. paint chips, swirl marks, bug acid - it's silly.
your average joe sixpack (no offence randode) thinks the car looks great 'cause it's clean and shiny, but i've been around classic cars all of my life and know paint. the scion paint sucks. period. i've got it about as good as you can get it - short of dave west's - but you shouldn't have to baby it as much as i do.

 

Anyway.. now that pops has finished his crazy ranting, anyone that would indeed like to send me pics of their stuff please do. Obviously this post has gotten ridiculously off topic so, enough of that.

I've already spoken with quite a few people about this, and would be more than happy to accept anyone's input on the experience with his or her car. Thanks!

 

just my 2 cents but most people follow way too close going down the road, this is where you get the chips in your paint. If you ever get the chance to check out the front of a car that you notice follows at a far distance from the car in front of it you will see what i am talking about.

 

actually someone else has brought this up in another post. i agree, that is a very good way to get chips on your car, however I take very good car to leave a wide berth between the front end of my car and the tail end of the car in front of me. sure it won't stop everything from hitting you, but it does make quite a bit of difference.

 

Grrr...as much as I love my Tc.... and I will rant and rave about it all day, but the paint has the finish of a pro job, but the quality of a maaco job...soo sorry scion. It is just the truth that there is little clear and the paint is thin on the lower portion of the car. I jus bought a pint of azure pearl to cover some minor blemishes occuring after 1000 miles. ......I only agree that the paint should have a better protection base/clear

 

at first i thought everyone was **** but wow scion pant really does suck! i picked up my car 5 days ago and i have 300 miles and i live in sf cali so i dont use the freeway much and i have around 8 chips on my front bumper already . and today while washing my car my hose fell on the car and made 2 scratches and i am at the sheet metal already.... that happened to 2 of my cars and all i had to do was wax it. but i alread plan on repainting the car in 1 year.

 

you deserve to drive a ford fiesta or a chevy lumina or something if you think the tC sucks.

 

She has every right to think the tC sucks, altho I wish all of you would leave it where it's on topic. Altho at least hers had something to do with the topic.

 

Y'all need to stop obsessing over your paint. Scratches and chips happen, that's life. You don't need to repaint the entire car because of a couple chips here and there.

 

any dealership in the country that wants to say that there is not a problem with the primerless bonded paint jobs on the scion is full of it i had a friend of mine that has worked for ppg for 25 years look at my black cherry xb as yes the paint not only flakes off it comes off in sheets ( pics soon) off the skirts bumpers and hood of these cars can take a look at mine according to my friend the chemically bonded primerless paint on the scions will come off the car easily and readily if the car was not completely dirt and greasy free at the time of paint more and more scion drivers are beginning to get the paint defect over time since i brought up the problem to scion in early june of this year like the person said from scion 3 yrs or 36000 miles but the problem is not only on scion they quite frankly don't know what to do they at a loss on the sheer number of cars coming in with paint problems not only is it their problem the paint manufactuer is lible as well for the failure of their paint and should be held accountable as much as scion but be certain this is going to become more of a prob in the future and toyota will have to repaint every scion sold in the us market with a normal tryed and true paint or face serious legal consequences

 

You can't controll rock chips. My dads Lexus LX470 has TONS of rock chips on the front bumper and the hood. Alot of the chips are down to the metal. Also my Step-Moms Mercedes SL600 has rock chips on the front and she NEVER really drives the car. You can't avoid rock chips. Bubbling of the paint is one story but rock chips is non-avoidable. The Scions my not have been painted right, but then explain my dad Lexus and my stepmoms Benz ...