Notices
Maintenance & Car Care Tune-ups and shake-downs...

For those of you having issues with your paint, read this!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 27, 2005 | 10:00 PM
  #81  
neuromonic's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Team ScioNRG
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 183
Default

My last car was a rally-blue wrx that I also bought brand new.
Within the first 6 months it had so many rock chips on the front hood and fenders that it looked like I ran into a can of white paint.

The truth is: painting a car well costs alot of time and money. Toyota is not the only company cutting corners on paint, these days.
Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:09 AM
  #82  
emlpro's Avatar
Junior Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2
From: Cincinnati
Default

Insurance co. just sent me an $800 check to cover painting the front doors due to a scratch on one from "some kind of animal" (that's what the appraiser said), and a scratch on another from my fingernail while washing the car (my nails are SHORT - I swear!).

The insurance co.'s gonna go berserk when I show them this... some kids "lobbed" a raw egg into on-coming traffic the other night - landed on my hood (see pic). Took the paint off down to bare metal! No dent, no paint.

Car is 1.5 months old w/2500 miles. For lack of a better explanation, the paint seems extremely "soft."

I wonder how much it would cost to have the entire car re-painted?

Old Feb 28, 2005 | 01:21 PM
  #83  
smash's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 946
From: Ashburn, VA
Default

Originally Posted by emlpro
I wonder how much it would cost to have the entire car re-painted?

Unfortunately, quite a bit. If you're looking to have a professional paintjob with paint that nears factory quality (or, in our cases better than factory quality) then you'll probably be looking in the ballpark of $3-5k. I've also run into a lot of reluctance from paint shops in the area to want to paint the entire car- most simply do insurance or repair work and prefer not to paint the entire car. Also, once a car has been repainted chances are it won't look as good as the factory job. I'd recommend you do what I've opted for in having the front end of the car repainted and blended back into the fenders- then consider getting a 3M ClearBra.
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 02:15 PM
  #84  
smash's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 946
From: Ashburn, VA
Default

** UPDATE **

My arbitration hearing will be 2 weeks from today, Wednesday, March 16th.

Wish me luck!
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 02:17 PM
  #85  
FrankenScion's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,374
From: www.scikotics.com
Default

Good luck.
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:09 PM
  #86  
XBman's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,188
From: California
Default

good luck.....
Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:47 PM
  #87  
rallyxb's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 388
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by smash
** UPDATE **

My arbitration hearing will be 2 weeks from today, Wednesday, March 16th.

Wish me luck!

Good luck...
Keep us posted.
Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:54 PM
  #88  
Tomas's Avatar
Admin Emeritus

10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,570
From: University Place, WA
Default

So far I don't appear to have an unusual chipping problem with my PW xB, but due to some vandalism I have an ugly dent in its hood. What's odd about that is the paint around the dent came off the metal in one broken piece as if it had nearly zero bond with the metal...

Perhaps the paint problem(s) are multifold: Clearcoat too thin/fragile, overall paint too brittle (shatters or cracks rather than flexing), and poor bonding with substrate.

Not being a paint expert I can't really say for sure - it's just that I've never seen paint on any of the other 27 cars I've owned separate from the metal so easily...
Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:57 PM
  #89  
Toasterbox05's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 60
Default paint peeling

i have had my xb for about 2-3 weeks now, after reading nearly every post here, i read of peoples pealing paint and bubbling, but smash's paint is clearly chipped, that happens on all cars if you dive under certian conditions, would like to see some of the bubbling or peeling paint (comming off in sheets), this would be a defect...but note older chevy trucks had this problem and gm never did anything about it......... another thing, swirling come from one of two things.......bad rubout job on a clearcoat, or poor washing habbits....

just my 2 cents though and good luck wit toyota

05 tcm xb
Old Mar 5, 2005 | 11:06 PM
  #90  
engifineer's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,731
From: Minneapolis, MN
Default

Originally Posted by smash
If it's not a defect then how come every other god damn car on the road doesn't need to be repainted after a month ?????? I can't believe any of you would say this is NORMAL. Could it happen to any car? Sure. But does it? Nope. And is this normal for a new car? No way Jose!
Yours MAY be an actual defect if it really that bad... depending on how the paint defects were caused. I have never seen a car that did not get paint chips from rocks and such. As far as the swirls... try having it professionally detailed to see if that helps. Many times the swirls are caused by the initial detailing of the vehicle. If the person did not buff the car correctly, swirls can be created. See if a good detail shop can buff them out. My tC is at 9500 miles and has no rock chips, and I live in Minneapolis, home of terrible roads :-) Try hard to work with the dealer (or a different dealer if yours will not at least try to work with you) to get it detailed or corrected.
Old Mar 9, 2005 | 09:47 PM
  #91  
danb's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Default Re: paint peeling

Originally Posted by Toasterbox05
another thing, swirling come from one of two things.......bad rubout job on a clearcoat, or poor washing habbits....
I'd just like to add... the car dusters do the same thing. I remeber seeing one lady come into my detail shop after she used one religiously for a year. The car looked like it was covered in spider webs.

Putting a good wax on the car regularly can also help prevent it a bit too.
Old Mar 9, 2005 | 10:44 PM
  #92  
jolsen30041's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 15
Default Paint job

I have 762 miles on my xb with black sand pearl....Ive got swirl marks all over the doors and rear hatch....

I washed it three times at a hand car wash.... rediculous...

Ive owned it for two weeks....
Old Mar 9, 2005 | 10:44 PM
  #93  
xnevergiveinx's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,408
From: North Royalton, OH
Default

i don't have any chips yet, however i did notice a decent amount of swirls on my hood from the first time i washed it by hand, granted it was my fault, but i washed it carefully, i never had to worry about scratches with my old corolla, scions have weak paint
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:47 PM
  #94  
smash's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 946
From: Ashburn, VA
Default

personally I don't have an issue with swirl marks.. i believe that's involved with what you use to wash your car. the '01 Jetta I had had gorgeous rich black german paint on it and got swirl marks all over it from one wash-- really just goes to show some brushes/pads/squigies/car washes/etc. can be rough on any paint!
Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:06 PM
  #95  
engifineer's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,731
From: Minneapolis, MN
Default

Originally Posted by Cybergypsy
Originally Posted by smash
If it's not a defect then how come every other god damn car on the road doesn't need to be repainted after a month ?????? I can't believe any of you would say this is NORMAL. Could it happen to any car? Sure. But does it? Nope. And is this normal for a new car? Absof*ckinglutely not.

seems everything thats not normal for other cars is normal for the tc!

paint peeling NORMAL!
sunroof noise NORMAL!
many problems Normal!
tc owners denial Normal!
AC Sucks Normal!
Heat Sucks Normal!
Oh yeah... mine is just terrible. No paint issues, no sunroof noise, AC will freeze you to death, and heat will melt you (and it gets well below 0 where I live). Its not all of them, they had a bad run of cars. So no it's not "Normal". We all know you hate the tC. So just get rid of it and don't drive one.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 02:57 PM
  #96  
dctennis10's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scion Evolution
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 321
From: DFW
Default

i've tried to touch up the first one...


Old Mar 14, 2005 | 03:15 PM
  #97  
SCI_TC_GUY's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,435
From: Benton, IL
Default

did you use a toothpick for the touchup??? that's what i'm going to try...
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 03:25 PM
  #98  
dctennis10's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scion Evolution
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 321
From: DFW
Default

yup, i just did the first coat like 45 mins ago, i have to put on a few more cuz its pretty deep
Old Mar 16, 2005 | 11:23 PM
  #99  
xBino's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 963
From: San Francisco, CA
Default

haha... and the dealer tried to get me to buy the "special paint protection" thingie for $800 when I got mine.

if they can't get the paint right, how're they going to get the protective coat right?
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 01:20 AM
  #100  
romper145's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 54
Default

so how did arbitration go?



All times are GMT. The time now is 08:36 AM.