You military? You sound informed.

 

Well it will be intresting to see what happens in Iraq, especially with this religous civil war that has sparked up, it is nothing new. the fight between the shiittes and the sunnies has been raging for hundreds of years.
what is going on now, the contest between iraqi's of who can kill the most people while worshiping has been occuring for hundreds of years, were just now seeing it with a front seat. With the past election it put the wrong party in charge and now the minority is incharge and is punnishing the sunni's. (saddams old party)

sunni's and shiittes (Sp?) have hated each other for decades, and sadly there is nothing anyone can do no.....other then watch and hope things settle down. Civil war is normal, but sadly were smack dab in the middle of someone elses war......
It is really now out of anyones control, especially Bush, or the military.
All the troops in the theater can do is watch thier backs, and stay out of the way.

 

nah....read a lot and have relatives in the government. mainly reading a lot.

The ____e/Sunni thing is being stirred up by outsiders (Iran) to destabilize the country. Yeah, they don't exactly love each other, but under normal circumstances the could coexist.

 

Remember after the first gulf war saddam massacred a bunch of ____es?
Well thats becuase Bush sr. told them to rise up with the implication we would do air cover for them and support their efforts.
So they rose up and rebelled. Pictures of ayatollah Khomeine started popping up (iran religous dictator at the time)
And we allowed saddam to wipe them out

Anyone that didn't see a sectarian civil war or a one sided genocide in the works Really needs some reality glasses

 

yeah they can co-exist, but you are right you have the imported extrimists from syria and iran stirring the pot in iraq.....
i think saddam also tired/did kill off a bunch of kurds, and gassed thier villages while the US was still in country....

 

Bush I really, really screwed the ____es. If we had come thru as promised we would not have been in this mess right now.

Saddam gassd the Kurds, but that was before the US came in - that was actually one of the justifications to going in the first time. Kurds should really have their own independent country - northern Iraq is basically operating as one - but we don't want to ____ off Turkey.

If the opening stages of the war hadn't been botched so badly, the civil war would have been far easier to control and would not
be the issue it is today.

 

Actually it might of been sited as a reason for war as it was now. But after he gassed the kurds (which got like page 8 coverage in the newspapers at the time) We gave saddam a billion dollars in credits to buy things here.

Biological weapons? We gave him the initial cultures to kick that off. We gave Saddam the green light to invade Iraq. Tariq Aziz at almost every press conference before the was stated the USA gave Iraq "permission" to invade.

US Diplomat April Glaspie in a meeting before the war, was told by saddam his plans.
April Glaspies response "the united states takes no position in arab on arab conflicts"

He invades, we start a war with him. Now if you were to come to me and said "im going to beat that guy up" and my response was "go ahead i wont interfere" Isnt that implied permission? Especially when your the 6ft man in a midget bar?

 

WOW!!! I just got back on here this morning and there are like 5 new PAGES of posts on this thread since I logged off yesterday afternoon. I don't even feel like reading them all to get caught up. Don't you people sleep?

 

someone wanna host a vid for me.....CourtesyofUSMarines?
pm me

 

i belive he used gas while we were still operating thier (the first bush) i remeber seeing it on the news.....

but i may be wrong.

 

He gassed his people came to the united states afterwards and we gave him a billion dollars in agriculture credits.

Shaking Hands: Iraqi President Saddam Hussein greets Donald Rumsfeld, then special envoy of President Ronald Reagan, in Baghdad on December 20, 1983.


According to a February 7, 1991 briefing prepared for the Department of Agriculture, which was headed by Secretary Richard Crowder, the CCC loaned about $5 billion to cover Iraq’s purchases from 1983 to 1990, in a curve whose trajectory broadly matches the US government’s support for the Hussein regime. After the US declared war on Iraq in 1991, Iraq ceased repaying its CCC loans and defaulted on $2 billion of debt to the CCC.

 

LOL.....how ironic.
well lets not forget we put him in power in the late 70's to protect our intrest in the middle east against Iran.

 

yep...we looked the other way on the gassing when we Saddam was invading Iran. Once he invaded Kuwait and threatened the Saudis he no longer served our foreign policy interests. (to say the least)

 

Hell with it. not going to make a difference now

 

Nope. We're a long way from fixing current problems or even preventing new ones. Right now, since there is no "will of the people", I don't see why the current administration would see a need to change.

Mid-term elections.... that's the first step. Will be a gut-check for America. See how many people are willing to continue to be led in the same direction and how many have decided "enough is enough".

 

Democrats gain control of the senate. Bush is finished, and he knows it. Unfortunalty this is when my predicted terrorist attack occurs and he becomes president for life

 

Where do you think Bush will tell them to hit us next? (okay, I'm kidding) ((sort of))

 

NY Dirty bomb
Cant use the anthrax ploy they got busted for that already.
SO either a dirty bomb or a small nuke in a cargo container.
Think Dubai port deal

 

I dunno about nukes. That's an escalation of gigantic proportion. I don't think there's a country that would harbor anyone that does that. Hell, we attack countries that have NOTHING to do with 911, what would we do to someone that nukes us?

 

What makes you thinnk it will come from another country?
Remeber the anthrax attacks after 9/11. That strain of anthrax came from the good ole usa