the mere fact that mardi gras is being celebrated as we speak suggests to me that the city is worth rebuilding. The city was 90 percent under water, but not 90 percent destroyed. It would take a cataclysmic event to do that.

If it's not rebuilt then what? Do we relocate the entire population? How do we do that? Do we rebuild the city somewhere else? How do we do that? It's easy to say that it was a mistake to build a city below sea level, but it's much more difficult to come up with a viable solution that doesn't include abondoning the city and tens of thousands of people.

 

Despite the tragic event that happened there, a killer and possible rebuild would be to make the Venice of the US. Imagine the possibilities of a floating city here in the US.

Unlikely, but cool to think about ..

 

Huh? It tells me that those people have some really mixed up priorities. Whatever.
Agreed. I didn't say it would be easy. But just because the answer is hard, doesn't mean you just give up trying and make the same old mistake again.

 

haha, you got my vote.

BTW, I'm diggin that bike in your avatar. Got any high res pics of it?

 

They were already relocated!!! Where the hell have they been since August??

You want to live below sea level and along the coast? Be my guest. But when you & everything you own are underwater because you made a decision to live there - don't expect me or my tax $$ to come bail you out again!

 

That relocation was temporary, the topic was about permanent relocation. Most of those people have been living out of hotels.

Oh, and in the event of another disaster, your tax dollars will help out wether you like it or not. My tax dollars helped pay for bombs that killed innocent people in Iraq, but there is nothing I can do about it.

 

Spot on!

NO will end up under water again. One of the main factors contributing to that is the fact there are dozens of oil rigs right of the coast of NO that continually pump oil from underneath the city. When you remove the material that supports NO, and you continually build buildings and increase the population in that area, you are adding more and more weight while removing the support material (oil)....well, it should not take a rocket scientist to figure out that NO is heading right back to tragedy.

Not only that but the city sits on a "shelf" in the ocean (as previously mentioned)....building a city was a bad idea, but rebuilding it is plain stupid.

http://www.eas.slu.edu/People/TMKusk...%20Sinking.pdf

 

In regards to the states responsibilities in natural disasters, I would like to point this out...

What do you do when the leader of the free world tells you that no matter what, america's resources are at your disposal. I guess those resources were moved in.. a week later.. Is that technically a lie? I dunno.

 

There's plenty of room in other city's for these folks. as a matter of fact, they could rehabilate alot of the city of Philadelphia and permanently relocate 1000's. Philly isn't subject to hurricanes, tornadoes or earthquakes. However the politicians are just as corrupt as those in New Orleans and Lousiana.

And I'm sure there are rundown parts of many other large cities that would be more suitable onece they are rehabilitated.

Those bombs - like it or not and whether you believe in this case it was for defense - were paid for to defend our country, something the federal government was established for. However - bailing people out of bad decisions, i.e. living below sea level on a seacoast is not......

 

If one of the "MOD's" can help me out:

I am subscribed to this thread but for some reason I am not receiving any emails when someone posts. I am with the other threads though...........hmmmm?

 

The federal government will help support those who are in need either within or outside our borders .. I think that perspective is a bit harsh ... what happens if next year a major blizzard blanket PA ? Cutting you off from the world, caving in homes and destroying property. You will probably be one of the first on the boards asking where FEMA is ? Don't deny .. because if you do not have the means to fix things that are beyond your control, you look to our government to help, local or otherwise.

This time NO, needed help, Florida needed help, next year it may be tornado alley, another place where people shouldn't live by this argument, after that Cali, when the fault lines give, yet some of the richest people in the country live there knowing that the earth may one day swallow them. So the argument of not a good place to live isn't valid. Precautions can be taken but at some point it becomes larger than the individual.

 

[quote]Those bombs - like it or not and whether you believe in this case it was for defense - were paid for to defend our country, something the federal government was established for. However - bailing people out of bad decisions, i.e. living below sea level on a seacoast is not......[/quote]

Your wrong


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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

wel·fare [ wél fèr ]


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Definitions:

1. well-being: somebody's state or condition with respect to whether he or she is healthy, safe, happy, or prospering
concerned about the welfare of prisoners held in solitary confinement


2. work to improve people's welfare: efforts, especially on the part of government and institutions, to ensure that the physical, social, and financial conditions under which people live are satisfactory


3. aid to people in need: financial aid and other benefits for people who are unemployed, below a specific income level, or otherwise requiring assistance, especially when provided by a government agency or program

 

This thread is in stealth mode. *que scary music.

 

I can only make 2 suggestions on this...there is the box under the quick reply that you can check...(not being insulting) and there is a place in your profile you have to change as well... I kinda think that the 2 have to work together.....I hope that helps.

 

Actually the NSA is intercepting his emails. Prepare your self for your eventual arrest were you will be waterboarded held incommunicado and whisked off toa foreign country were they will electricute your *********

 

Well, yeah, there's that too.....

 

P.S. Look out your window, there may be a black helicopter hovering over your house ..

 

You want an honest answer? First of all, if it was something I was warned about in advance and I could avoid it by leaving, I'd be gone. If I decided to stay, I'd be prepared. I'd have enough food and provisions to take care of my family instead of expecting the government to feed me. I would also expect my local government to clear the way first. If they couldn't handle the job then I would expect the state to step in. The federal government is the last group I would be looking for.
I'll tell you what I wouldn't be doing. I wouldn't be down looting Wal-Mart for plasma TVs while waiting for my government check to arrive. But that's just me.

 

I said taxes were for the common good, not spying. Domestic spying, especially when done illegally in order to gain or maintain political control, is an erosion of our Civil Rights and that should scare any patriotic American. Too many people have died to protect our rights and a President should submit to legal scrutiny just to eliminate and shadows of doubt about his decisions. What Bush is doing is wrong, pure and simple. If he was right he would submit to the legal system and get the warrants. Instead, he argues that he has Executive Power to order the wire-taps and surveillances. He does not. But, since he can create great huge clouds of uncertainty about it, and since one Party controls both houses, there is no one there to question him.


The federal government is for more than defense and you know this. I don't know what you mean by "political favors", was Haliburton involved in the building or maintenance of the levees?

Just how much do I want the government involved? You sound like the devastation of the Gulf Coast is a trivial thing that a few churches and some local goodwill could band together and handle repairs and clean-up over a few weeks, that looking to the government for help is somehow wrong? What the heck do we pay taxes for? Why is there FEMA?

So it's okay for them to spy on us to "protect us" but don't ask them to kick out some emergency funds to help us rebuild our cities and towns? Money that is of the people, by the people and for the people?

 

The necessity of a war with Iraq to "protect" our national security is HIGHLY debatable. Those bombs were dropped more for the sake of oil than national defense. I'll just leave it at that. Boy I'm asking for it with that statement.