Bush Ratings At All-Time Low
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The federal government is the last group I would be looking for.
I'll tell you what I wouldn't be doing. I wouldn't be down looting Wal-Mart for plasma TVs while waiting for my government check to arrive. But that's just me.
I'll tell you what I wouldn't be doing. I wouldn't be down looting Wal-Mart for plasma TVs while waiting for my government check to arrive. But that's just me.
Hey matt are you a member of this website?
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I would argue using Duker's definitions that the oil is required to "promote our general welfare". Like it or not, that's the way it is......
As for promoting general wlefare, the word is "PROMOTE". It doesn't say "Guarantee even if you decide to build a house on the beach below sea level".
And it's "general welfare" not "the welfare of individuals who don't have enough common sense to build their home along the coast above sea level".
As for promoting general wlefare, the word is "PROMOTE". It doesn't say "Guarantee even if you decide to build a house on the beach below sea level".
And it's "general welfare" not "the welfare of individuals who don't have enough common sense to build their home along the coast above sea level".
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You're right it eventually will happen again. But so will earthqaukes and tornados. Cities were intentionally built in these danger zones. Does that mean we should abandon them as well? Hell, our nation's capitol sits right at sea level, it was basically built on a swamp. The best we can do is defend against disasters to the best of our ability. Relocating cities is not a viable alternative.
Build it better, stronger.
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If one of the "MOD's" can help me out:
I am subscribed to this thread but for some reason I am not receiving any emails when someone posts. I am with the other threads though...........hmmmm?
I am subscribed to this thread but for some reason I am not receiving any emails when someone posts. I am with the other threads though...........hmmmm?
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It just doesn't sound American to me for us to not rebuild. American spirit, smarts and determination just make it part of our fabric.
Build it better, stronger.
Why rebuild in an area that WILL be taken again? It will take more lives, more money and more resources.
Maybe Mother Nature is trying to tell us something.
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And it's "general welfare" not "the welfare of individuals who don't have enough common sense to build their home along the coast above sea level".
Darwins survival of the fittest, the first and formost law.
Let the stupid die.
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I'll agree with you there Matt .. those idiots that use any excuse to loot is a horrible representation of any comunity. C'mon, loot a food king for food .. but when the power is out and you can't eat, what good is a 48" plasma gonna do ya ..
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Originally Posted by Duker
The federal government is the last group I would be looking for.
I'll tell you what I wouldn't be doing. I wouldn't be down looting Wal-Mart for plasma TVs while waiting for my government check to arrive. But that's just me.
I'll tell you what I wouldn't be doing. I wouldn't be down looting Wal-Mart for plasma TVs while waiting for my government check to arrive. But that's just me.
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I would argue using Duker's definitions that the oil is required to "promote our general welfare". Like it or not, that's the way it is......
Has anyone noticed that The iran situation will probably come to a head right about a year before bush leaves office?
A WMD strike in america will surely bring about martial law ans suspension of the constitution. Scary thought isnt it?
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Nope, I never said either was breaking the law.
I am not a Constitutional lawyer, but I kinda doubt you are either. Yes, spying is going on, has been for years, but, like you say, if it is for the common good of your country and the people....
I am not a Constitutional lawyer, but I kinda doubt you are either. Yes, spying is going on, has been for years, but, like you say, if it is for the common good of your country and the people....
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Besides, the Federal government is there to protect the people from our enemies, not rebuild levees that they had sent money to maintain but was wasted on a political favors.
Just how much do you want the Federal government to get into?
Just how much do you want the Federal government to get into?
Just how much do I want the government involved? You sound like the devastation of the Gulf Coast is a trivial thing that a few churches and some local goodwill could band together and handle repairs and clean-up over a few weeks, that looking to the government for help is somehow wrong? What the heck do we pay taxes for? Why is there FEMA?
So it's okay for them to spy on us to "protect us" but don't ask them to kick out some emergency funds to help us rebuild our cities and towns? Money that is of the people, by the people and for the people?
Let me guess, you demand a balanced budget, too.
No, I do not think the devestation was a trivial thing....loss of live or property never are.
I will stick by my personal responsibility statement from earlier.
And here is a heads up, sparky....you are not important enuff to be watched. Don't flatter yourself. You do know who the NSA is watching, don't you?
Gonzo, I want to ask you a quick question, and I can respect your disagreement with the war, I just don't understand it.....but, after we took it to Iraq, how many attacks have been on our soil?
I'd say it was worth it.
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Originally Posted by bbcrud
It just doesn't sound American to me for us to not rebuild. American spirit, smarts and determination just make it part of our fabric.
Build it better, stronger.
Why rebuild in an area that WILL be taken again? It will take more lives, more money and more resources.
Maybe Mother Nature is trying to tell us something.
Wow, if you believe that you HAVE to believe that we were wrong in building the World Trade Center so high because planes can fly into it.
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
Originally Posted by bbcrud
It just doesn't sound American to me for us to not rebuild. American spirit, smarts and determination just make it part of our fabric.
Build it better, stronger.
Why rebuild in an area that WILL be taken again? It will take more lives, more money and more resources.
Maybe Mother Nature is trying to tell us something.
Mother nature may be trying to tell us something, but it's not "Get out of New Orleans".
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Originally Posted by bbcrud
New Orleans has been there for hundreds of years. Building the levees taller, stronger, is not a bad idea.
Mother nature may be trying to tell us something, but it's not "Get out of New Orleans".
Mother nature may be trying to tell us something, but it's not "Get out of New Orleans".
Get it?
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Wow, if you believe that you HAVE to believe that we were wrong in building the World Trade Center so high because planes can fly into it.
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Gonzo, I want to ask you a quick question, and I can respect your disagreement with the war, I just don't understand it.....but, after we took it to Iraq, how many attacks have been on our soil?
I'd say it was worth it.
I'd say it was worth it.
What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
The United States government has determined al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden bear responsibility for the attacks. Bin Laden initially denied and later admitted involvement and knowledge of the incidents. He had earlier declared a holy war against the United States and this is seen as a motive for the 9/11 attacks.
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Let me guess, you demand a balanced budget, too.
No, I do not think the devestation was a trivial thing....loss of live or property never are. I will stick by my personal responsibility statement from earlier.
And here is a heads up, sparky....you are not important enuff to be watched. Don't flatter yourself. You do know who the NSA is watching, don't you?
No, I do not think the devestation was a trivial thing....loss of live or property never are. I will stick by my personal responsibility statement from earlier.
And here is a heads up, sparky....you are not important enuff to be watched. Don't flatter yourself. You do know who the NSA is watching, don't you?
Clinton did it and Bush is supposed to be better than Clinton. But, here were are with Presidential aproval ratings at the lowest point since Nixon. VP ratings at the lowes in history and Congressional approval ratings even lower.
Anyone notice a common theme here besides me?
And please don't try to use pet names oldmanatee, they come out sounding demeaning.
Let's maintain healthy, respectful debates. Like real Americans.
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Planes were not designed by nature. Apples and oranges dude.
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New Orleans has been there for hundreds of years. Building the levees taller, stronger, is not a bad idea.
http://eurota.blogspot.com/2005/09/u...hed-every.html