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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Seriously I can't believe what I'm reading here. So if a major earthquake happens in Los Angeles (yes it has and could happen again) ... The government shouldn't pay to rebuild it? "Wow they're a bunch of morons for building a city near a fault line, screw them....
I have been in San Diego for 31 years. In that time I have experienced ZERO large earthquakes. It is a chance I take living here.

But those in hurricane alley (for example), they have hurricanes EVERY YEAR, and every year you see news coverage showing the damage. And they all say the same thing, "We're gonna rebuild."

They need to take some respnsibility for their decisions.

Darwin. Survival of the fitest.
So is that the American way now? F*ck everyone down on their luck, every man for themselves? That idea certainly wasn't what our forefathers founded this country on. They acted on behalf of all men, so our natural rights would be preserved. They could've just said "Hey, screw it I have my property, go get your own." The federal government was created to protect the welfare of EVERYONE in this country. There is no mention of Darwin in the Constitution.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BSP_5c10n

So is that the American way now? F*ck everyone down on their luck, every man for themselves? That idea certainly wasn't what our forefathers founded this country on. They acted on behalf of all men, so our natural rights would be preserved. They could've just said "Hey, screw it I have my property, go get your own." The federal government was created to protect the welfare of EVERYONE in this country. .
How was America founded? By men who took chances and accepted that they might die in their journey. I dont think they went crying to Britian when things went bad in the new found land.

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There is no mention of Darwin in the Constitution.
Unfortunatly, according to our gov't, the Constitution is an outdated piece of paper. the "Patriot" Act shows this.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BSP_5c10n

So is that the American way now? F*ck everyone down on their luck, every man for themselves?
And if you REALLY think about it, that IS the way it is.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Its also only a few feet above sea level. SO it is not only badly located strategy wise, but its a flooded town waitng to happen.
How exactly is Washington D.C. going to flood? The big difference between NO and any other city which has the potential of being hit with a natural disaster, is that NO is only protected by a man made object (the levee system). It will fail again someday. The problem is, when a normal coastal city gets hit with a hurricane, as soon as the storm's over it's all done. With NO, if the levees fail it fills up like a soup bowl. You gotta be able to see that.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
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So is that the American way now? F*ck everyone down on their luck, every man for themselves?
And if you REALLY think about it, that IS the way it is.
And are we as Americans supposed to accept that? Do YOU accept that? If so, America is heading toward its destruction.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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CHRONOLOGY....Here's a timeline that outlines the fate of both FEMA and flood control projects in New Orleans under the Bush administration. Read it and weep:

And now a video comes out showing bush and homeland security knew it would be bad.
January 2001: Bush appoints Joe Allbaugh, a crony from Texas, as head of FEMA. Allbaugh has no previous experience in disaster management.


April 2001: Budget Director Mitch Daniels announces the Bush administration's goal of privatizing much of FEMA's work. In May, Allbaugh confirms that FEMA will be downsized: "Many are concerned that federal disaster assistance may have evolved into both an oversized entitlement program...." he said. "Expectations of when the federal government should be involved and the degree of involvement may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level."


2001: FEMA designates a major hurricane hitting New Orleans as one of the three "likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing this country."


December 2002: After less than two years at FEMA, Allbaugh announces he is leaving to start up a consulting firm that advises companies seeking to do business in Iraq. He is succeeded by his deputy and former college friend, Michael Brown, who has no previous experience in disaster management and was fired from his previous job for mismanagement.


March 2003: FEMA is downgraded from a cabinet level position and folded into the Department of Homeland Security. Its mission is refocused on fighting acts of terrorism.


2003: Under its new organization chart within DHS, FEMA's preparation and planning functions are reassigned to a new Office of Preparedness and Response. FEMA will henceforth focus only on response and recovery.


Summer 2004: FEMA denies Louisiana's pre-disaster mitigation funding requests. Says Jefferson Parish flood zone manager Tom Rodrigue: "You would think we would get maximum consideration....This is what the grant program called for. We were more than qualified for it."


June 2004: The Army Corps of Engineers budget for levee construction in New Orleans is slashed. Jefferson Parish emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri comments: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay."


June 2005: Funding for the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is cut by a record $71.2 million. One of the hardest-hit areas is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes.


August 2005: While New Orleans is undergoing a slow motion catastrophe, Bush mugs for the cameras, cuts a cake for John McCain, plays the guitar for Mark Wills, delivers an address about V-J day, and continues with his vacation. When he finally gets around to acknowledging the scope of the unfolding disaster, he delivers only a photo op on Air Force One and a flat, defensive, laundry list speech in the Rose Garden.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BSP_5c10n

And are we as Americans supposed to accept that? Do YOU accept that? If so, America is heading toward its destruction.
Heading towards its destruction? Hell, we are driving full throttle towards it.

Are we suppose to accept that? No. But we live in a democracy and because of that the herd rules. What the herd is told, the herd does. Its the group over the individual, one size fits all solutions to all our problems. But we wont solve problems without looking at them intelligently.

Do I accept that? HELL no! But I also have a firm grip on reality. I fight an uphill battle and can accept that.

I do what I feel is right. Everytime, all the time.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Aagin, this tells you why it is pure folly to rebuild NO in its current location.

http://www.eas.slu.edu/People/TMKusk...%20Sinking.pdf

"...New Orleans has one of the worst subsidence problems of coastal cities in the United States.
Its rate and total amount of subsidence are not the highest (see table 11.1), but since nearly half of the
city is at or below sea level, any additional subsidence will put the city dangerously far below sea
level. Already, the Mississippi River is higher than downtown streets and ships float by at the second
story level of buildings. Dikes keep the river at bay, and keep storm surges from inundating the city.
Additional subsidence will make these measures unpractical. New Orleans, Houston, and other
coastal cities have been accelerating their own sinking by withdrawing groundwater and oil from
compactible sediments beneath the cities. They are literally pulling the ground out from under their
own feet."
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee

All the muslim nations are linked together to destroy us..You and me...And it has been proven that Iraq had supported al queda, Iraq had ignored years of UN warnings so they were the lucky winners of the big lottery...


And I really do think the message was received.


AAAUUUUGGGHHHH!! When will we quit living in the first century and move above this religious dogma and BS to find REAL solutions??? I see as many fundie Christians walking around salivating at the thought of this being some kind of 'end of days' prophecy fulfilment as I do the extreme Muslims. We have to be above that defeatist attitude to continue as a people.

Please, tell me where you get your information that the Iraq supported al-queda when both the British intelligence and the 9/11 committee could find no direct link. You really think a dictator would want a crazy religious lunatic to threaten his regime? This doesn't make sense. Dictators want to control religion so they can control the people. For that matter a lot of other countries helped support terrorism and we haven't touched them.. explain that. There are too many holes in this logic.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Want to know what fear is? Its George Bush facing a majority democrat congress. He will get impeached. And it wont be abot now blue dress either.

I think that is when the next terrorist attack will occur and martial law declared. Anyone remember the anthrax attacks? They never found out who did it but they know where the anthrax came from. FT DIx. Who is the worlds largest researcher into biological and chemical weapons? Any guesses? Yep its us. And if we can provoke Iran into a conflict even better. After all we have the "WAR President"

AAAUUUUGGGHHHH!! When will we quit living in the first century and move above this religious dogma and BS to find REAL solutions??? I see as many fundie Christians walking around salivating at the thought of this being some kind of 'end of days' prophecy fulfilment as I do the extreme Muslims. We have to be above that defeatist attitude to continue as a people.
I was going to bring that up. A lot of bible thumpers voted for bush casue they thought he would fulfill the prophesy of the end of the world
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro
AAAUUUUGGGHHHH!! When will we quit living in the first century and move above this religious dogma and BS to find REAL solutions??? I see as many fundie Christians walking around salivating at the thought of this being some kind of 'end of days' prophecy fulfilment as I do the extreme Muslims. We have to be above that defeatist attitude to continue as a people.

Please, tell me where you get your information that the Iraq supported al-queda when both the British intelligence and the 9/11 committee could find no direct link. You really think a dictator would want a crazy religious lunatic to threaten his regime? Dictators want to control religion so they can control the people. This doesn't make sense. For that matter a lot of other countries helped support terrorism and we haven't touched them.. explain that. There are too many holes in this logic.

I think that if everyone took a look back at the major wars and killer regimes in our past, you would see one common link between them all.....religion. Religion, of ALL types, has been the greatest cause of human death and suffering.

Hell, even in my home country of Ireland, a TINY piece of land, there is still killing in the name of religion. One guy thinks he has the right god, and this guy thinks he has the right god. Will it ever stop? Not unless religion is dropped from the equation. Islam has been doing battle for over 6000 years....do you think it will ever stop?

My biggest complaint in religious zealots (not calling anyone that, just saying..) is they always stop short of really finding a solution because they wear these "religios blinders" that will not accept a certain group because their holy book tells them not too.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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oh .. End of days ? let's not get started on that one. The end of days is not the end of the world, merely the end of religion having its choking grip on what now is suppose to be the educated masses.

What a coincidence that it may coincide with the end of Bush ..
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Duker
...I was going to bring that up. A lot of bible thumpers voted for bush casue they thought he would fulfill the prophesy of the end of the world
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He is not out of office yet.....
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Oh, I could go on and on....
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro
Oh, I could go on and on....
I thought you already had.....
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
I thought you already had.....
Only for you Oldmanatee!
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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He is not out of office yet.....
Out of Office? What makes you think he will ever be out of office? Im thinking president for life. All it would take is one major attack we can blame the iranians for.
Then all the scared sheeple will run to him for protection.
Sort of like the fireman that starts houses on fire then shows up to put it out. And he is thanked, by the people living there that dont know he did it to begin with
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Good point ... since the Constitution is outdated.... , we are one revision of the patriot act away from allowing infinate terms in the presidency.
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Seig Heil! Bush die furher! Long live the Bush Dynasty!
Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Duker
Out of Office? What makes you think he will ever be out of office? Im thinking president for life. All it would take is one major attack we can blame the iranians for
Then all the scared sheeple will run to him for protection.

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