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Old May 3, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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He wasn't fired for the comments, per se, he was fired because his sponsors were pulling out or threatening to pull out. And when I say "pull out", I don't simply mean for his show, some were looking into pulling out of CBS altogehter. No sponsors = no money. He had to go.

Chris Rock is paid to say those things. If his audience didn't respond well, he wouldn't be in the position he's in today. Have you ever watched one of his HBO shows? You know why they fail? Because he can't simply be C Rock. He meters his comments and they come off with less bight, and he isn't as funny, and that's why his shows don't last long. HBO is afraid to let him loose on those talk shows, and they fail. When he does a stand up routine it's different. He gets paid by the audience that pays $60/ticket to see him (and they know what to expect), and HBO asks to film it for their lineup and pays him more. There's a difference.

And yes, there are white comedians that go the other way with it, see: Ralphie. Not as many, don't get me wrong, but there are some out there. The reason I don't like much of Def Comedy Jam is because it's the same racial jokes, one right after another and there's little to no originality, and that's why they stay on Def Comedy Jam. Chris broke out and blew up because he mixes it up with non-racial jokes and tells both sides of the racial story.
Old May 3, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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scionofPCFL, we all know that America doesn't rank very high in test scores, but sports is the major focus in all high schools and colleges across America that are competetive.

And you're changing the conversation. I was talking about your scenario of schools being competetive, not schools being a monopoly. Schools in America being competetive is almost completely rooted in how well their sports programs are.

Under your want of choosing which school you go to you will get the schools with the best teams getting the best athletes, best teachers, and best students due to success of those teams.

Not necessarily the best test scores in the world, which you threw out there in the middle of nowhere.

And besides, you confirmed my response already though you don't realize it. Look at your closing comment and that agrees with everything I was saying.
Old May 3, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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we all know that America doesn't rank very high in test scores, but sports is the major focus in all high schools and colleges across America that are competetive.
This is so backwards I don't even begin to know where to start. I'm speaking of being academically competitive. I don't give two skits about which HS has the best football team. And when it comes down to brass tax, and if parents had a choice of sending their child to the school that graduates more tier one college entrants vs. schools that graduate more athelets, most of us would choose the academics. And in the world of school choice, we parents would have that choice.

And you're changing the conversation. I was talking about your scenario of schools being competetive, not schools being a monopoly. Schools in America being competetive is almost completely rooted in how well their sports programs are.
There is no school competition except with sports, period. Schools are a monopoly because the governments set it up that way. If you live at point B, you go to school X. Period, end of story. And that's what's wrong.

Under your want of choosing which school you go to you will get the schools with the best teams getting the best athletes, best teachers, and best students due to success of those teams.
Not at all. Believe it or not, parents do care about academics, that's why they pay a premium in Real Estate to ensure their child will goto a good school.

Not necessarily the best test scores in the world, which you threw out there in the middle of nowhere.
I'd argue that you through sports out of nowhere. What does academic competence have to do with sports? Nothing. Parents won't choose the best football school, they'll choose the school that educates the best.

And besides, you confirmed my response already though you don't realize it. Look at your closing comment and that agrees with everything I was saying.
You'll have to explain how. Unless you are still assuming that most parents will send their kids to the best sports schools, which is compltely false. Some will, but out of 2000 kids at a HS, how many are on the football team?
Old May 3, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett
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black people are not limited in anyway now. they can do anything a white person can do.
I can tell you are not black. By law yes, everyone has the same rights. In real life, not everyone thinks so. I like I said before it hasn't been that long ago when blacks we're thought to be less then human and the people who felt that way before didn't change their minds with the law.
The average age of a CEO is 56 do you think they still remember what they were taught in high school about what kind of people you want to hire to do a good job?
typical blame the white man cop-out and that is a perfect example of racism in america today. basicly you just insinuated that a 56 year old white man will automaticly not hire blacks. that statement sounds pretty prejuduce to me.
What I "insinuated" was that it wasn't all that long ago when people thought differently. Some people fought for equal right some fought against it.
At no point did I say everyone as you insinuated.
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