A petition is where the law making process starts, take a look at this link...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...license+plates, and click on the first one on the list (for whatever reason, i cant direct link to it)

It started as a petition in Ohio, now look at it its on the state house's bill, and if this bill passes, all cars in ohio will no longer require front plates.

Check it out,

John

 

I'm signing it. Also, does anyone know of "plugs" or something you can use to cover the holes. Unfortunately, my dealership REFUSED to NOT drill the holes, as it was a part of the delivery checklist, so I have a tacky plate on the front. Help!

 

same thing happened to me, the best i could find is this..www.bumperplugs.com

Hope this helps,

John

 

I signed the one for Jerz, never know. Even though I'm planning on moving to NC where only a rear plate is required.

 

Thanks for signing anyways.

John

 

Thanks. I'll check it out.

 

hmmm..

So it helps identify those who are breaking the law and endangering others so they can be caught and disciplined? How's that a scam?

Rich people only have to pay the fine if they run a red light, right? You break the rules, you pay for the chief's new shoes. no big deal.

I do wonder why they wouldn't put them in the more accident prone places though. Seems like it'd be nice to get a snap shot of the accident as it happens.

 

yeah its not like you have a choice anyways, they use fat like 7/16's sheet metel screws to decimate your front bumper, like thats really necessary !! just so teh dealer can get a bit more advertising.
i doubt california has time to deal with such petty things right now, maybe one of those smaller towns you guys live in where there isnt much else to debate, but california has too much crap to deal with for them to pay attention to a few signatures

 

in alot of states it's been ruled a violation of privacy for a red light or speeding camera to take a pic of the front of the car (because you can see the driver's face), so the cameras are set up to take shots of the back plate exclusively.

but that said, online petitions are kinda worthless, theyre way too easy to falsify to carry any weight.

 

What crap are we dealing with that you are referring to? As far as i know there arn't any pressing state issues that are being dealt with at the moment.

John

 

I just signed it...I guess front license plates are good if you're getting chased backwards??? Ha Ha!

Can't stand front license plates - I have never used them and most likely never will.

 

Thanks for your signature.

John

 

It's not about the rich or the poor, it's about honest citizens getting shafted while dishonesty pays off...

The main reason for a front plate is photo enforcement. It is a scam because they potray the system as a "safety" measure when it is usually motivated by revenue. Studies have shown that for "safety", lengthening the yellow by a second or two will create a much safer intersection than camera enforcement. Also, camera enforcement is applied individually and doesn't carry the same deterrent effect as having a few hundred drivers roll past the cop and his victim. There's a flash, 2-3 months later you get a ticket in the mail? They don't even put signs at the enforced intersections anymore, the law states they only have to mark all entrances to the city. One of the two companies that set SF up wasn't making enough money so they quit. In order for the other company to stay afloat and to keep the city's new revenue stream that they invested in, the legislature tripled the price of an infraction.

So, does it sound like a safety program or a revenue program?

 

^^^^exactly, its all about the revenue, it has nothing to do with safety.

John

 

Revenue is the one pressing issue...

Besides tuners and such, the majority of people out there could probably care less about this matter...

I don't like the front plate either and with my new grills can't run my custom bracket, so I'm currently rolling without one...Keep your fingers crossed for me... I've also got smoked tails, 3rd brake overlay, a little underbody and LEDs inside plus i can't drive 55... I'm a ticket just waitin' to happen... (j/k, Gods of Irony, knocking on wood, etc.)

 

wheres the one for WA state? o_0

 

sorry to burst your bubbles.. its not gonna work... i sign that petition 2 yrs ago....
and guess wut?.... they still didnt pass it...

 

online petitions.. haha =)
You wish.

 

honestly, i don't mind having a front license plate. it doesn't bother me at all, i never even look at it when i look at my car

 

If you don't like the front plate mounted ON the bumper, an alternate is "attaching" it to the inside of the windshield in the lower passenger-side corner. The base of our tC windshield is less than 60 inches from the ground.

The California Vehicle Code says:
5200 CVC
When two license plates are issued by the DMV for a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear.
5201 CVC
License plates shall at all times be securely fastened to the vehicle for which they are issued so as to prevent the plates from swinging and shall be mounted in a position to be clearly visible, and shall be maintained in a condition so as to be clearly legible. The front license plate shall be mounted not more than 60 inches from the ground.
5201 (e) CVC
No covering shall be used on license plates, excluding license plate security covers.
5202 CVC
Every license plate issued by this State or any jurisdiction within or without the United States shall remain attached during the period of its validity to the vehicle for which it is issued while being operated within this State.

Just an idea in the event you want to avoid a "fix it" ticket and still not put the front plate on your car. I haven't had a front plate on my Miata EVER and, despite many speeding tickets, have never been cited. I have no intention of marring the front of my Scion with a license plate.