front liscence plate*everyone please look*
for the ohioans:
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.d.../1056/news0104
not sure if it is too late send a letter/email/call to the senators as support since they're debating it this week, although it sounds like Taft won't sign it anyway.
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.d.../1056/news0104
not sure if it is too late send a letter/email/call to the senators as support since they're debating it this week, although it sounds like Taft won't sign it anyway.
Been driving in So Cal for 4 years without a front plate, and in Nor Cal for 4 years prior to that without a front plate and never got stopped. Helps driving trucks, cops leave you alone. Now all my friends with coupes or anything sporty, always get hassled for not having a front plate life just aint fair is it.
It is just a fix it ticket if you get stoped, just put your plate on then remove after you get the ticket fixed.
It is just a fix it ticket if you get stoped, just put your plate on then remove after you get the ticket fixed.
The motorcycle cops in SF justify their existence by stopping you for no front plate. Apparently they have nothing better to do. We were stopped 3x in a month by three different motorcycle cops. I got a warning once, my wife got a warning once, and then she got the fix-it ticket.
I got some window suction cups from Walgreens for $2.50 and the all-important front plate now resides in the lower-left corner of the front window. It's less than 60" from the ground, so in full compliance with CA State Law for front plate display: http://www.worth1000.com/entries/53000/53127XDGC_w.jpg
It doesn't obscure field of vision thanks to the xB's nice and big upright windshield, and we get to avoid drilling holes in our bumper to comply with this arbitrary and asinine law.
So, at fix-it time I stopped an SFPD uniform in car and he said "Don't tell me, let me guess...a motorcycle cop cited you for this, right?" He immediately signed it off, shaking his head the entire time.
If this were a serious law, and not just an excuse to stop/hassle people from boredom, fill up cite books with infractions, and justify administrative bloat, they need simply walk the beat in Pac Height$$, $eaCliff and the Marina where you will see many, many Porches, BMWs, Mercs and Range Rovers--but oh wait a sec!!--very, very few with front plates.
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
In related news: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=605624#605624
I got some window suction cups from Walgreens for $2.50 and the all-important front plate now resides in the lower-left corner of the front window. It's less than 60" from the ground, so in full compliance with CA State Law for front plate display: http://www.worth1000.com/entries/53000/53127XDGC_w.jpg
It doesn't obscure field of vision thanks to the xB's nice and big upright windshield, and we get to avoid drilling holes in our bumper to comply with this arbitrary and asinine law.
So, at fix-it time I stopped an SFPD uniform in car and he said "Don't tell me, let me guess...a motorcycle cop cited you for this, right?" He immediately signed it off, shaking his head the entire time.
If this were a serious law, and not just an excuse to stop/hassle people from boredom, fill up cite books with infractions, and justify administrative bloat, they need simply walk the beat in Pac Height$$, $eaCliff and the Marina where you will see many, many Porches, BMWs, Mercs and Range Rovers--but oh wait a sec!!--very, very few with front plates.
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
In related news: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=605624#605624
I specifically asked my dealer not to drill any holes into my front bumper, too, and he was absolutely fine with it. Reminded him a good three times just to make sure. I'm picking it up in about 2 hours, so if I see holes, there's gonna be blood.
Wish we could get rid of them in WA. I'll probably just keep mine in the window when I'm on a busy street, and stick it under the seat when I'm just cruising.
Wish we could get rid of them in WA. I'll probably just keep mine in the window when I'm on a busy street, and stick it under the seat when I'm just cruising.
a friend of mine bought a new Toureg and he told them not to drill the holes for the license plate. He said as long as there are no holes that he doesnt need a front license plate. Is this true? I live in DFW area of Texas.
You got it teamkasnomas, the front plate can be "attached" in any manner. Double stick tape, suction cups, doesn't matter. Use duct tape. Nothing in the vehicle code says that "attached" is defined as screws placed into holes. We could use WonderTape (the stuff automotive emblems are often attached with) to attach the plate if we wanted to. As long as the plate is attached in a manner to prevent it moving, it's legal (in CA -- dunno about other states).
I'm just going to wait until I get a fix-it ticket (if ever). My Miata is 10+ years old and has never had a front plate. Even when I've been stopped for speeding, I haven't been cited for no front plate. So, I'm just gonna take the risk until it happens.
As for the argument that front plates help with IDing a car faster. That point is a dubious one. Next time you're sitting at a left-turn light with oncoming traffic flowing towards you, try reading the front plates. Traffic is moving at what -- 30? 40? 50? How well will you read the plate?
True, police officers receive some training and practice. Nonetheless, even for them it is not an easy thing to get a good plate reading off of a car moving even 30mph in the opposite direction. I'm not saying it can't be done, and I'm not saying that SOME kind of ID can be made -- but the cases where it is useful are limited. A front plate typically is only useful for red light cameras and other "revenue enhancing" tactics.
Personally, I don't want a front plate for purely aesthetic reasons. It has nothing to do with breaking the law.
I'm just going to wait until I get a fix-it ticket (if ever). My Miata is 10+ years old and has never had a front plate. Even when I've been stopped for speeding, I haven't been cited for no front plate. So, I'm just gonna take the risk until it happens.
As for the argument that front plates help with IDing a car faster. That point is a dubious one. Next time you're sitting at a left-turn light with oncoming traffic flowing towards you, try reading the front plates. Traffic is moving at what -- 30? 40? 50? How well will you read the plate?
True, police officers receive some training and practice. Nonetheless, even for them it is not an easy thing to get a good plate reading off of a car moving even 30mph in the opposite direction. I'm not saying it can't be done, and I'm not saying that SOME kind of ID can be made -- but the cases where it is useful are limited. A front plate typically is only useful for red light cameras and other "revenue enhancing" tactics.
Personally, I don't want a front plate for purely aesthetic reasons. It has nothing to do with breaking the law.
whoopsie...wrong link!! here are the cali dmv front plate stipulations:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm
my dealer didn't drill the holes, thank goodness, and i don't intend to either. i have my front plate suction cupped to my front windshield (from the inside
) on the bottom driver side corner. I haven't had any problems yet...
Good lookin out. I was riding in with my cousin in her '05 Civic EX and a occifer stopped us because of the "absence of a front end license plate". She got charged $60 for not having one. That's just ridiculous.
This has got to stop. But it's ok if it doesn't. :-p
This has got to stop. But it's ok if it doesn't. :-p
My dealer drilled holes even after I repeatedly reminded them not to. Then I go to pick up my plates and the clerk says I can have them attached if I go to the service center, so what the hey, I go, and I tell them I only want the rear plate put on. The dude's shocked, saying, "well, I guess you could do that, but you're risking a ticket". I say, "that's fine, dude; it's been done". Thankfully he listened. I hate the frames that gave me from the dealer, too.
Hey, what can I use to cover up the holes? I just have the black screws in the front right now, and taking them out would probably look ridiculous unless I somehow got around to plugging the holes. Any ideas?
Hey, what can I use to cover up the holes? I just have the black screws in the front right now, and taking them out would probably look ridiculous unless I somehow got around to plugging the holes. Any ideas?
That's my problem with it, too; I specifically told them a number of times to make sure they wouldn't do it, and when I thought I'd drilled it into their heads, I went ahead and reminded them anyway.
I decided to be legal for the day, so I tried putting my plate into the front end. Took the screws out for the first time; it was torture to see all the mutilated plastic underneath, surrounded by unpainted scratches. Whatever, I thought. I put in the plate and stepped back, and it became immediately apparent that, despite my numerous requests not to drill those holes in the first place, they'd not only done it, but done it completely crooked. Looked ridiculous, so I got ____ed, threw the ____ back in my room and washed my car, hoping to rid at least some of the debris away from the holes. Not much luck, but it's less noticable. I might just go with the flatheaded screw idea.
I decided to be legal for the day, so I tried putting my plate into the front end. Took the screws out for the first time; it was torture to see all the mutilated plastic underneath, surrounded by unpainted scratches. Whatever, I thought. I put in the plate and stepped back, and it became immediately apparent that, despite my numerous requests not to drill those holes in the first place, they'd not only done it, but done it completely crooked. Looked ridiculous, so I got ____ed, threw the ____ back in my room and washed my car, hoping to rid at least some of the debris away from the holes. Not much luck, but it's less noticable. I might just go with the flatheaded screw idea.





