^^^ that sounds good, but i think the key word is attached. i think you have to actually screw it into your dash or something if that was to work. I dont know though. Can anyone else testify to this?

John

 

I hear they make you put front Plates on so that police have something easier to reflect their radar guns off of

 

A loose plate of metal on your dash is not advisable in the event of a crash. Especially right over the airbag...

 

"It is a scam because they potray the system as a "safety" measure " Ah, ok. Yeah, seems that way. But I don't have a problem with people that break the law paying more so I don't have to. The marketing part is a scam though, I agree.

 

I dont understand?

John

 

If this is a revenue thing, then what this does is give the police dept more money so that the county/city/etc doesn't need to raise taxes. Just like people with heavy cars should pay more for registration since they cause more road damage, people that break the law should pay more for law enforcement since they cause the need for enforcement.

 

So what does the front liscence plate have to do with breaking the law? Im not arguing the fact that you have to pay a fine if you are ticketed for not having a front plate on, I am arguing the legitimacy of having front plate at all.

John

 

signed for cali... how many signatures does it need to go through?

 

I think we’re digressing.

Front plates make it easier to ID cars for cops. Esp those automated red light cameras. So, if people want to get rid of their front license plate so they can run red lights ***** nilly I say make them keep their plates and make them pay for running the lights. Make them pay a lot so my taxes go down. Make them pay for my insurance too.

 

signed it

 

Actually red light cameras get 2 shots of the rear liscence plate. The front shot is for trying to get the drivers face. So it might be easier for cops to make an ID head on, but it makes no difference for red light cameras at all.

John

 

I specifically told the dealer no front plate period. I guess they won't put them on unless you ask for them, in toledo ohio, at least. I think it makes any car look ugly that doesnt have a recessed spot in the front bumper for them.

 

^^^^ I asked my dealer to specifically not drill the holes in my front bumper too. He told me that it was impossible for him to do, because if a car of his is caught off of the lot with no holes drilled, he gets fined. Could just be a bunch of bs that he was giving me, but i couldn't pursued him to do otherwise.

John

 

DAYUM there are some ign'int people on this forum.

There IS a reason for front plates.

Front plates in WA don't require a license tab, so it's obviously not a revenue issue. As some may think.
Sorry Scionic, I didn't do any research, I just thought about it for about 20 seconds. Not everything in this world can be traced back to money.

People who think they can avoid red light cameras by taking their front plates off are stupid. Running a red light is stupid in the first place. Also if we all took off our front plates off all they would do is turn the camera around, and catch your back plate.

The reason for front plates is for police to read them.
Police at red lights get bored. So they run plates to pass the time (When they don't turn on their strobes and go through the light, then turn them off on the other side of the intersection. Fukr's) They run plates of cars that pull up behind, they run plates of people on the other side of the intersection.

Also an online petition will NEVER change anything. I work for local gov't and I've personally seen someone receive a petition, read the front page then drop it in the recycling.

 

Maybe your the one who is ignorant, and your argument would be more pursuasive if you had done some research about red light cameras. For everyone who thinks that the only reason for taking off your front plates is to avoid red light cameras is wrong. For your information, red light cameras get two shot of the rear of your car to get your plate number. They only try and get a shot from the front to get the face shot of the driver.

If front plates are sooo important, then why do 20 of the 51 states not require them? Right now, other states are already debating the need for them, and will vote within the year what they will do with them.

So if your entire argument is based on the point that we need them for the cameras, then you are missinformed. I will agree with you that police probably do run plates when they are at stop lights, but who cares if they cant run your plates if you are behind them.

John

 

I made a licesen plate holder. =)

i put it on my friends TC .. havent had time to take it with a dig cam.



pm me if you want one. i might be able to make it.

 

Signed, I cannot wait till it is sealed and delivered. Screw all the cameras at intersections.
In the Costa Mesa area I drove through a yellow to red and My truck was entirely in the intersection. The lights went off and I made a goofy face for the jackholes. I didn't have a front plate on my truck and never heard anything about it.
I also want to go play with toll roads and just not pay for a while since I have no plates on the tC at all yet. Any thoughts? Not trying to highjack this thread, just curious about peoples thoughts on this.
Stop you're busted for not having a front plate.

 

It wont. Guam just started that damn front license plate law a few years ago. They aint changing it back. They say its needed to ID cars faster when needed. SO its a must have. I hate a front plate, but they are prob right. Cops can ID you from both sides.

 

We need the real petition people outside Target to get involved. Then it will be a legitimate petition with the potential to be put on the ballot for a vote. That is how it works people.
The revenue is made when people receive a ticket in the mail and just pay it to pay it. Then since it is a moving violation the points go on the persons record and insurance goes up.
Who do you think is lobbying the state and local governments to put these damned things in intersections? I doubt it is people motivated by safety. They may argue it is needed due to safety but their real motivation is the installation and maintenance fees they charge. City governments do not instal nor do they service these things.

These devices are the work of the devil trying to suck the monetary blood from the average working class

 

I plugged my front plate holes. I wonder how much the ticket is gonna be.