Dear JRV:

Where did I say " we need them for the cameras."

I never said that, A new paragraph usually means a different, but related idea. I said that we need them, and it can't be traced back to money

And as for the rest of you, I used to work for the friggin' DOT, I've been in the room where traffic cameras are monitored, they take pictures of front and rear. So please don't tell me that camera's only take a picture of front plates. They may do that in your state, they sure the hell don't do it here.

 

just bringing it back up

 

..gg

 

well since it got brought back up, might as well put my .02 in. anyone ever notice that no corvettes have front plates at all. all they have is a little square imprinted on their bumper that says corvette. hell, i think ill go imprint scion on my front bumper if its ok for a corvett to do it.

 

Naw. even the 'Vettes have front plates 'round here...

 

damn this is old but, I don't have a plate in the front of mine. it goes well withthe fact that the RS doesn't have an emblem in the front as well

 

www.bumperplugs.com

 

you should post these on myspace too. it would get tons of people signing it.

 

nice petition... but without them, the state can't make money for those who rush the red light from the camera system they have now a days

 

Good stuff! I signed! MD Woot woot! No tags! :p

 

you are kidding me with this, right?

I quote:

"To: California Legislature
To: CA Legislators
We, the Undersigned, petition the State of California to revoke the current law requiring the display of a front license plate on passenger vehicles.
We support the current and future licensing fee structure, but ask that the law reflect that a front license plate is no longer required. We believe that there are significant benefits in not requiring front license plates and our reasons for this belief are briefly summarized in the paragraphs below.

First, eliminating the need for a front license plate will significantly reduce the state costs associated with production, storage, and shipping. Second, a front license plate restricts the performance of passenger vehicles. Modern cars aren't being designed with front plates in mind anymore, because mounting brackets that are necessary to hold the plates interfere with the cars' aerodynamics and often get damaged during the car-washing process. Third, unnecessary damage is sustained from minor bumper-to-bumper collisions, because the front mounting brackets on passenger cars can cause cracks and abrasions to the rear bumpers of the cars that they hit. Finally, police officers will be more productive in stopping dangerous motor vehicle violations such as drunk driving, reckless driving, speeding, etc., because their time won't be compromised by a California motorist who simply didn't have a front license plate on display.
Law enforcement officials might be opposed to a measure abolishing the front license plate requirement, because they might believe that losing the extra plate will make it more difficult for them to do their jobs in the best possible manner. However, in the 20 or more states that have abolished the front license plate requirement, there is no evidence of a decline in public safety as a result of the plate removal. "

It seems the points are ,"Hey, not only does this dang front license plate look like crap, but the mandatory requiring one makes my car slower. Not only that...when I rear end someone these bothersome front license plate screws are leaving an impression in their bumper. Also, without having to look at the front of cars, cops will be freed up to chase real criminals instead of license plate law scoffers.

Not strong arguments there. Not that I disagree with the intent, just the execution.

 

Please everyone reading this, sign the MD petition. even if you are not from MD. Thanks

 

Online petitions work as much as forcing a video game maker to remove "pornography" from their videogame when the child can just type, www.bigfreakinhooters.com and see real ****. Online petitions are pointless....especially when they're for something like changing the law.

They make the law to make money off of it...there's no changing it, so just drive without one and get a fix-it ticket.

 

I refused to sign the contract and take delivery of my box if the dealer drilled holes in the front bumper. I was too lazy to read the whole post... does anyone have a petition for Missouri?

 

yeah, it sucks. i got a fix it ticket today in sf for not having a plate on the front of the car. anybody know where to go after u get the ticket sign off by a officer?

 

I'm in the process of getting another tC and I will make SURE there are no holes drilled in the front bumper. I live in CA and have a cop for a parent, regardless the reason I dont want a front plate is because the tC's look SO much better without AND thats the biggest laser target ever, reflective, flat, right in the middle...

speaking of laser, does anyone know if that "Veil" stuff works?

 

can you sign a release of all your assets to me?

 

I think we should make a petition for trucks with towing capacities over 3/4 ton to have a license plate on the back. I've been hacked off too many times by someone in a 8"+ raised nobby tired tailgate down truck more often than I have by a real driver... if I knew the plate, I could call my cop friends to be on the look out for them later. But then, it's an online petition. If you want something done, you have to sit down and write a letter to your senator with paper and pen, no computers.

 

Can we get a VA one going? I've wanted no front plates badly for a long time now.. starting back when I had my first VW and wanted to put a euro plate on the front.