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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by XBLOVE
I have NEVER been so proud of the U.S.A as I am right now!!! change is coming!!! OMFG this is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle Obama is that you? I am sick of hearing that statement! You have never been prouder of America!?!?! Are you serious?? Don't get me wrong it is a great day, but really?
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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I have NEVER been so proud of the U.S.A as I am right now!!! change is coming!!! OMFG this is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle Obama is that you? I am sick of hearing that statement! You have never been prouder of America!?!?! Are you serious?? Don't get me wrong it is a great day, but really?
She is entitled to her opinion....it may be the proudest moment for her. Each of us have our own ideals....and this is an amazing history making moment.

I was watching The View this morning. Whoopi said something that brought tears to my eyes. She said that she called her mom and asked her mom if she ever thought she would see this day. She said her mom is the most progressive woman she knows and expected her mom to say "YES" very emphatically.....but her mom said no. Whoopi said that caught her off guard and she started thinking...

She said that she is an American and always felt like an American...but today she feels like she can finally put her suitcase down.

It was so profound that it really hit me. Sherri was in tears talking about her conversation with her son. It was moving and brought tears to my eyes

There are many people who feel this the proudest moment in the USA....And indeed it is an amazingly proud moment. So many years of telling our kids they could be anything they wanted....this is a giant leap in the direction that they really can...no matter their race or gender!
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Why? Why do we need to define it by race? He's an American just like every other American. He will be President!

I posted this in another thread:
Since we all live in the very P.C. country we live in I would like to point out that we have the first interracial President-elect. Go America for "breaking through the racial barrier". I thought this race had nothing to do with race? Allow me to elaborate. The reason I say this is because race realtions and P.C. mentality go hand in hand. We haven't borken through any barrier when Americans continue to say things such as "breaking through the racial barrier", "as a black person", and many other divisive statements Americans use daily. We should all be Americans first not Asian-Americans, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Native Americans, and any other hyphenated nationality you can fit before being an American! Until you get rid of those divisive terms we shall never "break through the racial barrier".
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I have a renewed faith in the USA!
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I am sorry that you two ever had wavering trust in the USA. I wouldn't trust any other country with my life.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jsa3mm
Why? Why do we need to define it by race? He's an American just like every other American. He will be President!
It's because sometime about 40-odd years ago, he couldn't even sit in the same section as you in a restaurant, and his section probably didn't even have chairs. And now he holds the highest office in the country.

Just because you can't appreciate that, doesn't mean nobody else can. My friend's father was speechless, telling us how he grew up in Alabama and watching the civil rights movement unfold. We "define it by race" because America defined his race during the civil rights movement and the Civil War.

I am sorry that you two ever had wavering trust in the USA. I wouldn't trust any other country with my life.
It's my given right as an American citizen to have a dissenting opinion and question my government, and my duty to exercise those rights as I feel necessary.

I stopped trusting my country when my country stopped trusting me. My country violated my trust when it lied to me about invading a foreign country. My country violated my trust when it saw me as a terrorist. My country violated my trust when it determined that I didn't need to know what it was doing anymore.
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Of course I can appreciate at that he is going to be the first interracial President, but let's not make it just about that. Let's see what he and the Democrat majority can accomplish. Let that define him.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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^i dont see anything about trust in those posts!
and if you dont think it has been going down the crapper the last eight years.. uhhhhhh ok.
go try getting a home loan right now...lmao
and no i dont trust our goverment.. but hey thats a diffrent thread i could go on for hours about.
all i wanted to do is give congrats to obama and a change cant come fast enough.
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jsa3mm
Why? Why do we need to define it by race? He's an American just like every other American. He will be President!

I posted this in another thread:
Since we all live in the very P.C. country we live in I would like to point out that we have the first interracial President-elect. Go America for "breaking through the racial barrier". I thought this race had nothing to do with race? Allow me to elaborate. The reason I say this is because race realtions and P.C. mentality go hand in hand. We haven't borken through any barrier when Americans continue to say things such as "breaking through the racial barrier", "as a black person", and many other divisive statements Americans use daily. We should all be Americans first not Asian-Americans, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Native Americans, and any other hyphenated nationality you can fit before being an American! Until you get rid of those divisive terms we shall never "break through the racial barrier".
If your whole point of supplying this opinion is to prove how P.C. our nation is, please make sure you know what you are talking about. (i.e. "Asian-Americans...African-Americans" do not have dashes)
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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Congrats to Obama!! the crook deserves it...he made history thats correct .....but history making isnt always a good thing.
you dems need to be informed....if i described to you 4yrs ago the exact description of Obama and his views and policies his rhetoric lies. Biden said he will be tested in less than 6 months of him in office. His 250k to 200k to 150k tax cut bs, his intentions to deminish the coal industry and his statement that he will make energy cost skyrocket, to his radical friends!!! I mean that right there is enough. hey if i told you a minority who has radical anti-white/american friends is running for office would you vote for him??? He (Obama) turned it into a racial vote. its sad but congrats to him i hope he does a good job if not the ppl will speak again in 2 years. But gotta praise him now GO OBAMMMMA WHOOOOOO yeah Time for change yeahhhh...change to socialism lol
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he is his brothers keeper yeah right....he talks about spread the wealth but yet he doesnt donate to charity if he does its a dismal amout biden donated 1300 of the millions he is worth. Obama aunt lives in a slum and his brother in a hut. He wants to spread the wealth alright. Ill quit my job and live off you fools lol i praise obama!!!!! Hail obama!!! but if he had different views on certain things I would have probably voted for the guy maybe if he ran a campain saying i love america for its freedom and giving me the opportunitty to get me where i am. From being poor minority to going to hardvard to being in the whitehouse its a feel good story but he has views that i oppose greatly.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Quit your jobs and live off the rich ppl OBAMA will take care of you and the economy will crumble he wants us to make us unmotivated. we wont want to do good for ourselves and live the american dream make the millions WHY bc we will be taxed out the bunghole....Change OWnes 2008!!!!
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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yeah i gotta stop it and just deal with it just venting but i do wish him the best im done with this topic
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Thanks for venting.........and remember you too should be in front of the line when you quit your job.........are you really sure at your age you understand reality........good luck to you.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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lltysonll, the way you string together your fundamentalist neo-conservative rhetoric in an unapologetically inconcise and vitriolic manner, you strike me as someone who listens to Michael Savage.

Just sayin'.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dibbz
^i dont see anything about trust in those posts!
and if you dont think it has been going down the crapper the last eight years.. uhhhhhh ok.
go try getting a home loan right now...lmao
and no i dont trust our goverment.. but hey thats a diffrent thread i could go on for hours about.
all i wanted to do is give congrats to obama and a change cant come fast enough.
faith -noun: confidence or trust in a person or thing
We've only being going down the crapper for aprox. 2 years. I don't want to discuss politics. I wanted to discuss the hypocracy of the belief that we are breaking through some racial barrier. You know what I think is funny? The fact that we step up and elect a black man. A HUGE civirl rights movement in my opinion. Yet, in three states where ___ marriage was on the ballot to be considered legal or not it was stomped into the ground. Where are the civil rights equality?
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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You forgot to include the example in that definition, jsa.
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

If I have no trust in Bush's ability to competently guide my country in a progressive direction, and I have no confidence in my otherwise elected government's ability to do anything about that, I have no faith in my country.

I had no faith in a conservative slant being what's best for my country for the past seven years, and I voiced my right to dissent against it with my pen yesterday. Turns out, I wasn't alone.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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I am glad we live in the greatest country in the world. I am proud of my country EVERY DAY because we can have these conversations without prosecution. We can talk our government lower than a dog, and let the terrorists see how hateful we are to our own country that it glee's them, yet we are allowed to roam the streets! In any other country, you would be silenced. I am as proud today to be an American as I was 8 years ago. I love my country and I take great pride in being an American.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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I actually like my dogs more than I've liked my government the past eight years... but anybody that personally knows me knows that I revere my dogs more than I revere most of humanity.

If your measure of "greatest country in the world" is simply that we have the freedom to dissent, then most of the world is actually the "greatest country in the world". The sort of jingoistic nationalism that you're espousing right now is the other reason (besides, you know, blowing up countries) why the rest of the world just sort of ***** an eyebrow at us. If you honestly think that we're the only country on Earth where people can openly dissent against their government without retribution, you should do some traveling.

Nice one with the "if we aren't patriotic, the terrorists win!", too. Bush tried a similar move, and it backfired. If you think that terrorists get off on John Doe America saying that he doesn't like his government, you should probably re-evaluate what you think priorities of terrorists are.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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amen and they all ready making moves russia missles to polan. hamas fired missles at isreal this moringing .... the radicals are celebrating. spread the wealth marxism at its best.
Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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I am not saying you don't question your country, but you sure as hell shouldn't bash it! You don't like it and you've done some traveling, yet it's not the greatest country in the world...YOU ARE IN AMERICA AREN'T YOU??? Why didn't you stay where it was better? I didn't vote for Mr. Obama and I don't believe exactly what he does, but I refuse to bash him because I want this country to succeed. If we don't back our President then he has no backbone because the citizens are the backbone to any country. The government is nothing without its people!

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