Immigration
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Oh, Dont get me wrong, insurance is a huge rip off, I somehow managed to pay $220 a month for insurance, I dont remember what the limits are, but they are high, and I have 4 points on my license.
Sure, Insurance is a ripoff, but its a neccesary rip off.
Sure, Insurance is a ripoff, but its a neccesary rip off.
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Originally Posted by krustytheclown
Oh, Dont get me wrong, insurance is a huge rip off, I somehow managed to pay $220 a month for insurance,
I was on my own at 18. If I had been making the $5-7 an hour like most kids that age, i wouldn't be able to afford rent, utilities, insurance, and top ramen off that. there's not even a car payment in that scenario.
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
A) Most of the immigration rhetoric is 100% bs
B) Most illegals (like nearly all of them) entered the country legally with legally obtained visas and legally obtained ID, they just stayed after their Visa expired
C) If you throw stuff at the cops in riot gear, expect a reaction, regardless of your skin color or where you hail from
D) Despite nobody here knowing exactly how events transpired and what triggered what, there will, nevertheless, be countless assumptions from both sides on this thread.
B) Most illegals (like nearly all of them) entered the country legally with legally obtained visas and legally obtained ID, they just stayed after their Visa expired
C) If you throw stuff at the cops in riot gear, expect a reaction, regardless of your skin color or where you hail from
D) Despite nobody here knowing exactly how events transpired and what triggered what, there will, nevertheless, be countless assumptions from both sides on this thread.
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Originally Posted by rivas_203
Originally Posted by seattledave
i don't understand why INS doesn't go after illegals when they say "look over here, we're illegal".
There are hundreds of thousands of illegals that actually do their taxes to get money back. There's an address right there. INS could just drive around to every home depot on monday mornings and fill up ryder trucks with them. lots of stuff we can do, and we don't.
I don't know why all these people south of the border being in a constant state of illegality causes no one to do anything.
I'd like to see hillbilly rednecks start making citizen arrests on illegals.
There are hundreds of thousands of illegals that actually do their taxes to get money back. There's an address right there. INS could just drive around to every home depot on monday mornings and fill up ryder trucks with them. lots of stuff we can do, and we don't.
I don't know why all these people south of the border being in a constant state of illegality causes no one to do anything.
I'd like to see hillbilly rednecks start making citizen arrests on illegals.
There was also research done recently, the average ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT HOUSEHOLD used $30,000 per YEAR in government resources, and only pays about 10,000 in taxes (sales tax for the most part)...so every illegal household is taking 20k per year from us, the tax-payers, not cool in my book. Hard working or not, we should NOT have to take on their burden just because they're poor and here illegally, and we happen to pay taxes
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Some of you may have seen this, but nevertheless, read on...
HARSH YOU SAY??
a.. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
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a.. No special ballots for elections.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. BUT options will be restricted.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. You are not allowed waterfront property. That is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no waving a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. If you do you will be sent home.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Harsh, you say?........
The above laws happen to be the immigration laws of " MEXICO"
HARSH YOU SAY??
a.. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. No special ballots for elections.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. BUT options will be restricted.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. You are not allowed waterfront property. That is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no waving a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. If you do you will be sent home.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
a.. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Harsh, you say?........
The above laws happen to be the immigration laws of " MEXICO"
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ok, excuse me, I will change "most" and "nearly all" to 1/2:
Modes of Entry for the
Unauthorized Migrant Population
Nearly half of all the unauthorized migrants now living in the United States entered the country legally
through a port of entry such as an airport or a border crossing point where they were subject to inspection by
immigration officials, according to new estimates from the Pew Hispanic Center.
As much as 45% of the total unauthorized migrant population entered the country with visas that allowed
them to visit or reside in the U.S. for a limited amount of time. Known as “overstayers,” these migrants became
part of the unauthorized population when they remained in the country after their visas had expired.
Another smaller share of the unauthorized migrant population entered the country legally from Mexico
using a Border Crossing Card, a document that allows short visits limited to the border region, and then violated
The rest of the unauthorized migrant population, somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally.
Some evaded customs and immigration inspectors at ports of entry by hiding in vehicles such as cargo trucks.
Others trekked through the Arizona desert, waded across the Rio Grande or otherwise eluded the U.S. Border
Patrol which has jurisdiction over all the land areas away from the ports of entry on the borders with Mexico and
The Pew Hispanic Center has previously estimated that there are between 11.5 and 12 million
unauthorized migrants in 2006.1 The calculations reported in this fact sheet suggest that roughly 4.5 to 6 million
or 40 to 50% of the total entered the country legally through ports of entry. Of them, some 4 to 5.5 million
entered with nonimmigrant visas, mostly as tourists or business visitors, and another 250,000 to 500,000 entered
Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population
Non-Immigrant Visa Overstayers 4 to 5.5 Million
Border Crossing Card Violators 250,000 to 500,000
Entered Legally
with Inspection
Sub-total Legal Entries 4.5 to 6 Million
Entered Illegally
without Inspection
Evaded the Immigration Inspectors
and Border Patrol 6 to 7 million
Estimated Total Unauthorized Population in 2006 11.5 to 12 Million
Source: Pew Hispanic Center Estimates based on the March 2005 Current Population Survey and
Department of Homeland Security reports.
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There are stats all over the place, and it depends on who you listen to.
BTW, I'm surrounded by uneducated hick rednecks, but that doesn't make me one of them. So why don't we leave the name calling on the school yard for the 9 year olds, hmm k?
Modes of Entry for the
Unauthorized Migrant Population
Nearly half of all the unauthorized migrants now living in the United States entered the country legally
through a port of entry such as an airport or a border crossing point where they were subject to inspection by
immigration officials, according to new estimates from the Pew Hispanic Center.
As much as 45% of the total unauthorized migrant population entered the country with visas that allowed
them to visit or reside in the U.S. for a limited amount of time. Known as “overstayers,” these migrants became
part of the unauthorized population when they remained in the country after their visas had expired.
Another smaller share of the unauthorized migrant population entered the country legally from Mexico
using a Border Crossing Card, a document that allows short visits limited to the border region, and then violated
The rest of the unauthorized migrant population, somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally.
Some evaded customs and immigration inspectors at ports of entry by hiding in vehicles such as cargo trucks.
Others trekked through the Arizona desert, waded across the Rio Grande or otherwise eluded the U.S. Border
Patrol which has jurisdiction over all the land areas away from the ports of entry on the borders with Mexico and
The Pew Hispanic Center has previously estimated that there are between 11.5 and 12 million
unauthorized migrants in 2006.1 The calculations reported in this fact sheet suggest that roughly 4.5 to 6 million
or 40 to 50% of the total entered the country legally through ports of entry. Of them, some 4 to 5.5 million
entered with nonimmigrant visas, mostly as tourists or business visitors, and another 250,000 to 500,000 entered
Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population
Non-Immigrant Visa Overstayers 4 to 5.5 Million
Border Crossing Card Violators 250,000 to 500,000
Entered Legally
with Inspection
Sub-total Legal Entries 4.5 to 6 Million
Entered Illegally
without Inspection
Evaded the Immigration Inspectors
and Border Patrol 6 to 7 million
Estimated Total Unauthorized Population in 2006 11.5 to 12 Million
Source: Pew Hispanic Center Estimates based on the March 2005 Current Population Survey and
Department of Homeland Security reports.
click
There are stats all over the place, and it depends on who you listen to.
BTW, I'm surrounded by uneducated hick rednecks, but that doesn't make me one of them. So why don't we leave the name calling on the school yard for the 9 year olds, hmm k?
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Re: Immigration
[quote="citizen01"](Racism and unfounded derogatory remarks are not welcome here)
So... recently there was a protest in LA that ended with police in riot gear breaking it up in response to protestors throwing various objects (bottles, etc) at police. What is your take on this? Did police go too far? [quote]
A different perspective than what you hear from the mainstream media:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XCWNe0pBTI
***WARNING: Contains language!***
Your thoughts?
This video was shot by an illegal alien supporting blogger that refused to disperse from MacArthur Park on May 1. While his intentions were to support the illegal aliens, I feel his video captures a wide range of hostile sentiments present in MacArthur Park on May 1, 2007.
12-25 people are killed by illegal aliens every day in America.
Number of protesters killed on May 1, 2007: 0
So... recently there was a protest in LA that ended with police in riot gear breaking it up in response to protestors throwing various objects (bottles, etc) at police. What is your take on this? Did police go too far? [quote]
A different perspective than what you hear from the mainstream media:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-XCWNe0pBTI
***WARNING: Contains language!***
Your thoughts?
This video was shot by an illegal alien supporting blogger that refused to disperse from MacArthur Park on May 1. While his intentions were to support the illegal aliens, I feel his video captures a wide range of hostile sentiments present in MacArthur Park on May 1, 2007.
12-25 people are killed by illegal aliens every day in America.
Number of protesters killed on May 1, 2007: 0
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I always loved the part in the movie "Day After Tomorrow", when the snow storms hit the US, and people are trying to go into Mexico to avoid the freezing cold, and Mexico closes its borders. Then you see Americans going through the Rio Grande to get into mexico.
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
ok, excuse me, I will change "most" and "nearly all" to 1/2:
Modes of Entry for the
Unauthorized Migrant Population
Nearly half of all the unauthorized migrants now living in the United States entered the country legally
through a port of entry such as an airport or a border crossing point where they were subject to inspection by
immigration officials, according to new estimates from the Pew Hispanic Center.
As much as 45% of the total unauthorized migrant population entered the country with visas that allowed
them to visit or reside in the U.S. for a limited amount of time. Known as “overstayers,” these migrants became
part of the unauthorized population when they remained in the country after their visas had expired.
Another smaller share of the unauthorized migrant population entered the country legally from Mexico
using a Border Crossing Card, a document that allows short visits limited to the border region, and then violated
The rest of the unauthorized migrant population, somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally.
Some evaded customs and immigration inspectors at ports of entry by hiding in vehicles such as cargo trucks.
Others trekked through the Arizona desert, waded across the Rio Grande or otherwise eluded the U.S. Border
Patrol which has jurisdiction over all the land areas away from the ports of entry on the borders with Mexico and
The Pew Hispanic Center has previously estimated that there are between 11.5 and 12 million
unauthorized migrants in 2006.1 The calculations reported in this fact sheet suggest that roughly 4.5 to 6 million
or 40 to 50% of the total entered the country legally through ports of entry. Of them, some 4 to 5.5 million
entered with nonimmigrant visas, mostly as tourists or business visitors, and another 250,000 to 500,000 entered
Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population
Non-Immigrant Visa Overstayers 4 to 5.5 Million
Border Crossing Card Violators 250,000 to 500,000
Entered Legally
with Inspection
Sub-total Legal Entries 4.5 to 6 Million
Entered Illegally
without Inspection
Evaded the Immigration Inspectors
and Border Patrol 6 to 7 million
Estimated Total Unauthorized Population in 2006 11.5 to 12 Million
Source: Pew Hispanic Center Estimates based on the March 2005 Current Population Survey and
Department of Homeland Security reports.
click
There are stats all over the place, and it depends on who you listen to.
BTW, I'm surrounded by uneducated hick rednecks, but that doesn't make me one of them. So why don't we leave the name calling on the school yard for the 9 year olds, hmm k?
Modes of Entry for the
Unauthorized Migrant Population
Nearly half of all the unauthorized migrants now living in the United States entered the country legally
through a port of entry such as an airport or a border crossing point where they were subject to inspection by
immigration officials, according to new estimates from the Pew Hispanic Center.
As much as 45% of the total unauthorized migrant population entered the country with visas that allowed
them to visit or reside in the U.S. for a limited amount of time. Known as “overstayers,” these migrants became
part of the unauthorized population when they remained in the country after their visas had expired.
Another smaller share of the unauthorized migrant population entered the country legally from Mexico
using a Border Crossing Card, a document that allows short visits limited to the border region, and then violated
The rest of the unauthorized migrant population, somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally.
Some evaded customs and immigration inspectors at ports of entry by hiding in vehicles such as cargo trucks.
Others trekked through the Arizona desert, waded across the Rio Grande or otherwise eluded the U.S. Border
Patrol which has jurisdiction over all the land areas away from the ports of entry on the borders with Mexico and
The Pew Hispanic Center has previously estimated that there are between 11.5 and 12 million
unauthorized migrants in 2006.1 The calculations reported in this fact sheet suggest that roughly 4.5 to 6 million
or 40 to 50% of the total entered the country legally through ports of entry. Of them, some 4 to 5.5 million
entered with nonimmigrant visas, mostly as tourists or business visitors, and another 250,000 to 500,000 entered
Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population
Non-Immigrant Visa Overstayers 4 to 5.5 Million
Border Crossing Card Violators 250,000 to 500,000
Entered Legally
with Inspection
Sub-total Legal Entries 4.5 to 6 Million
Entered Illegally
without Inspection
Evaded the Immigration Inspectors
and Border Patrol 6 to 7 million
Estimated Total Unauthorized Population in 2006 11.5 to 12 Million
Source: Pew Hispanic Center Estimates based on the March 2005 Current Population Survey and
Department of Homeland Security reports.
click
There are stats all over the place, and it depends on who you listen to.
BTW, I'm surrounded by uneducated hick rednecks, but that doesn't make me one of them. So why don't we leave the name calling on the school yard for the 9 year olds, hmm k?
Your location says "redneck riviera", and you've got a picture of a deer as you avatar, sorry for jumping to conclusions...really.
And regarding your info, ]As much as 45% of the total unauthorized migrant population entered the country with visas that allowed?
Thats not quite most, in fact thats not even half....regardless of how they got here, they're still a burden on our society and should be sent back, "hard working" or not. Also, with regards to your source, I'd hardly trust anything put out by the US Government on this, especially Homeland "Security"...they don't even enforce the current immigration laws we have in place now, how can we trust their "numbers" on the issue at that?
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^^^ It looks more like a "bullcow" lol
whatever good they do to our economy they counteract it with not paying taxes, leaving hospitals w/out paying (no address), etc etc. I wish it wasn't that way, I mean they're hard workers but they are screwing all of us.
whatever good they do to our economy they counteract it with not paying taxes, leaving hospitals w/out paying (no address), etc etc. I wish it wasn't that way, I mean they're hard workers but they are screwing all of us.
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they're still a burden on our society
i'd hardly trust anything put out by the US Government
It's not a deer, it's a bull. Deer are much smaller (but arguably tastier), and the horns are much less substantial. But the most substantial thing about him is his message, he carries the gospel truth in his hooves; words to live by :D
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
they're still a burden on our society
i'd hardly trust anything put out by the US Government
It's not a deer, it's a bull. Deer are much smaller (but arguably tastier), and the horns are much less substantial. But the most substantial thing about him is his message, he carries the gospel truth in his hooves; words to live by :D
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Originally Posted by seattledave
it's a longhorn, i thought he was claiming texas heritage for the longest time.
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