doesnt exist. fabricated by the human mind to make an understanding of something we dont understand imho.

 

if we don't understand it, who is to say that it isn't real...

 

yeah you do have a point there i was kinda insinuating that too

but thats been true throughout history. It will stay a belief until proven fact/fiction. kinda the same thing with sun gods setting and rising the sun. who knows, might be some connection, but i tend to not believe things unless shown heavy evidence in support.

 

I dont believe in it....

 

i forgot to mention that even though i dont believe in it, i do have respect for the message it sends.

It definately communicates a good message and moral value.

 

it isn't real. prove every action has an equal reaction when it comes to morality and our actions against people.

here's a great way for you to try and show karma to not be real:

green river killer admitted to killing 40-something women, and it is thought it is 60something.

How could karma fairly repay him?

 

The same can be said of religion.
People need hope, hence a lot of things that require faith on one level or another.

 

That Green River killer sure has you worked up eh?
I think you have him in every post!

 

no, but it's hard to prove to someone that someone has done something so over what karma could ever resciprocate. using a serial killer of many people is about as easy as it gets.

i mean if you only kill 1 person, and then you get killed. karma could explain that.
but kill 2+ people, karma can't do anything equal.

 

My ex beast now is still in college and gets by everyday on Coke after we broke up.

Karma or not I like it

 

What about taking matters into your own hands....You kill my brother...then I kill you out of anger and revenge.....Do I get punished by Karma?

 

I agree, karma is a philosophy as said about Buddhism. So, according to Buddhism, next live that serial killer will most likely reincarnate into a battered wife that will probably get beaten for the rest of her long miserable life with no one to aid her. That's karma and it's real to me.

 

thats what its all about right there.

 

You'd have something there if the Judea-Christian morality was somehow unique.

 

It doesn't have to be unique. It happens to be a historical truth, and if it had been some other form of religion, it would be similar - with a think a few notable exceptions.
If the founding fathers had been Muslim, the US would be quite different, and illegal immigration wouldn't be an issue because nobody would be sneaking across that border.

 

Ok, so from what I can tell from what you are saying, is that you do not count yourself in the group that says America was God's gift to the world, and we Americans are just so lucky that God loves us and sent the Framers here to found the US?

That's usually the tone I get from Religious folks (fundies)after they mention that the US was founded on Christian Ideals.

 

They'd be sneaking across to the other side of the border. I get into the debate alot about iraq peace between the sunni/shiite/kurds, and one thing most of us westerners don't understand, is in muslim belief, they say "If your country's religion is not your religion, it's not your country and you need to change that". look it up if you don't believe me.

That's not a terrorist belief(ok, it sorta is though, right?), it's a muslim belief. That's why sunni & shi'ite relations won't work. It's in their religion. The muslims in america, if they follow what they're faith says, believe in the same thing. That's scary, that an entire religion openly states it won't be content until it has taken over a country.

But we're told to keep on believing that they can put their differences aside, even though their religion says not to. please. They're not all terrorists because they all haven't bombed us, even though they believe that. If america became 50+% sunni or shi'ite, think our country wouldn't be run that way?

Saddam was bad sure, but he was a leader of the much less oppressive religion of Shi'ite which only had about 20% of the countries population. What if? he had been in charge of the much larger 60+% Sunnis? How much more control of the country would he have had? How many more deaths?