Mexican flag Over upsidedown US flag
Originally Posted by Serialk1llr
I* think he meant you don't.
...And To answer his Question if I go around disrespecting Americans..The answer is no........cause like I said before I am an American
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lol yeah i can understand that, but I would personally like to keep all the illegals OUT of here, i think we should just close our borders to incoming traffic, I HATE PEOPLE THAT DISRESPECT THE COUNTRY THEY ARE IN, we have family and friends that are fighting for our freedom in IRAQ to keep these freeloading aliens free, to give them rights, and a place to call home, but they go around saying the country sucks, this and that
They should go to a communist country like the one i came from and see what it really means to have rights, and to have someone else fight for your freedom cuz your to weak to do it yourself
They should go to a communist country like the one i came from and see what it really means to have rights, and to have someone else fight for your freedom cuz your to weak to do it yourself
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What a shame! If you don't like it here, go back to wherever you came from!! Illegal immigrants need to be equal as us American citizens too, they need to pay taxes also. This is a slap in the face to the US, they're given freedom and then they hang our flag upside down, can we at least get some respect for giving them freedom?
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Flying the American flag upside down is considered a distress signal in the Army. So basically put by their symbolism with the flags, America is in distress because Mexico is taking over. ...sounds accurate.
The resolution to this issue is more simple than one may think. It all boils down to supply and availability. Cut off the benefits for illegals and eliminate the employers who willingly employ them for dirt cheap labor. The problem will resolve itself.
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters.
Begin punishing the corporations who knowingly employ illegals. Fine the $#!t out of them. Make it so that getting caught employing illegals is no longer worth the risk. By doing this, you eliminate the benefits of ultra-cheap labor for the corporations. They will stop employing illegal immigrants, which eliminates the supply of income for the illegal immigrants.
Cease the free education, welfare, healthcare, etc., for illegal immigrants. Without these benefits and income opportunities, there would be no reason for illegals to enter the U.S. illegally.
Now before anyone oversteps their bounds and calls me a racist, let me explain what also needs to take place in order for this process to succeed as a whole.
After the influx has been controlled, it is time to revamp the process of citizenship for the U.S.. This process should not take decades as is the current situation. There should be strict requirements for citizenship opportunities into the U.S., which should include THOROUGH background checks, health inspections, etc., to prevent immigrants from coming into the U.S. only to contribute to the existing crime problems, which is very much the case in our current system. More deaths are commited by illegal immigrants on a DAILY basis accross the U.S. than occur in Iraq in a month!!!
Every citizen should be required to speak, read, and write English. There should be NO translators or available translations of any U.S., State, City, or even County/Parish documents. This is not to say that people should not speak their native tongue. By all means, speak other languages, but be prepared to communicate in English, because that is the official language of the U.S..
Every citizen is required to pay taxes on ALL income. If you do not pay taxes, you are not entitled to education, healthcare, welfare, unemployment insurance, etc..
Also, should the military draft ever be reinstated, all citizens who meet the requirements of the draft shall be required to serve in the armed forces in order to assist in protecting the country of which they have chosen to become a citizen.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a touchy subject for me.
The resolution to this issue is more simple than one may think. It all boils down to supply and availability. Cut off the benefits for illegals and eliminate the employers who willingly employ them for dirt cheap labor. The problem will resolve itself.
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters.
Begin punishing the corporations who knowingly employ illegals. Fine the $#!t out of them. Make it so that getting caught employing illegals is no longer worth the risk. By doing this, you eliminate the benefits of ultra-cheap labor for the corporations. They will stop employing illegal immigrants, which eliminates the supply of income for the illegal immigrants.
Cease the free education, welfare, healthcare, etc., for illegal immigrants. Without these benefits and income opportunities, there would be no reason for illegals to enter the U.S. illegally.
Now before anyone oversteps their bounds and calls me a racist, let me explain what also needs to take place in order for this process to succeed as a whole.
After the influx has been controlled, it is time to revamp the process of citizenship for the U.S.. This process should not take decades as is the current situation. There should be strict requirements for citizenship opportunities into the U.S., which should include THOROUGH background checks, health inspections, etc., to prevent immigrants from coming into the U.S. only to contribute to the existing crime problems, which is very much the case in our current system. More deaths are commited by illegal immigrants on a DAILY basis accross the U.S. than occur in Iraq in a month!!!
Every citizen should be required to speak, read, and write English. There should be NO translators or available translations of any U.S., State, City, or even County/Parish documents. This is not to say that people should not speak their native tongue. By all means, speak other languages, but be prepared to communicate in English, because that is the official language of the U.S..
Every citizen is required to pay taxes on ALL income. If you do not pay taxes, you are not entitled to education, healthcare, welfare, unemployment insurance, etc..
Also, should the military draft ever be reinstated, all citizens who meet the requirements of the draft shall be required to serve in the armed forces in order to assist in protecting the country of which they have chosen to become a citizen.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a touchy subject for me.
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Originally Posted by rrimportracer
we have family and friends that are fighting for our freedom in IRAQ to keep these freeloading aliens free, to give them rights, and a place to call home, but they go around saying the country sucks, this and that
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no i didnt forget that, but you forgot the bigger picture, we are fighting terrorism, trying to bring it down in order to keep our freedom going, BTW lets take a second and remember those lost on December 7th 1941, 65 years since then, but back on topic metro273, the big picture is what im looking at, terrorism, if we just let it go, it will come right back at our door step.
So I stopped on my way home and got a haircut today. The Lady cutting my hair was hispanic didnt speak English very well.....She asked why I didnt speak Spanish, and I told her I grew up with white folks.......Then she started hitting on me....The owner of the hair salon is Aisian.....she dosent speak English very well either....but she speaka da Engrish berry guud! She washed my head and rubbed my shoulders.....I was hoping for a happy ending but it was a no go............I forgot where I was going with this story.....Oh welll hair cut came out good as always
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Originally Posted by UV7
Flying the American flag upside down is considered a distress signal in the Army. So basically put by their symbolism with the flags, America is in distress because Mexico is taking over. ...sounds accurate.
The resolution to this issue is more simple than one may think. It all boils down to supply and availability. Cut off the benefits for illegals and eliminate the employers who willingly employ them for dirt cheap labor. The problem will resolve itself.
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters.
Begin punishing the corporations who knowingly employ illegals. Fine the $#!t out of them. Make it so that getting caught employing illegals is no longer worth the risk. By doing this, you eliminate the benefits of ultra-cheap labor for the corporations. They will stop employing illegal immigrants, which eliminates the supply of income for the illegal immigrants.
Cease the free education, welfare, healthcare, etc., for illegal immigrants. Without these benefits and income opportunities, there would be no reason for illegals to enter the U.S. illegally.
Now before anyone oversteps their bounds and calls me a racist, let me explain what also needs to take place in order for this process to succeed as a whole.
After the influx has been controlled, it is time to revamp the process of citizenship for the U.S.. This process should not take decades as is the current situation. There should be strict requirements for citizenship opportunities into the U.S., which should include THOROUGH background checks, health inspections, etc., to prevent immigrants from coming into the U.S. only to contribute to the existing crime problems, which is very much the case in our current system. More deaths are commited by illegal immigrants on a DAILY basis accross the U.S. than occur in Iraq in a month!!!
Every citizen should be required to speak, read, and write English. There should be NO translators or available translations of any U.S., State, City, or even County/Parish documents. This is not to say that people should not speak their native tongue. By all means, speak other languages, but be prepared to communicate in English, because that is the official language of the U.S..
Every citizen is required to pay taxes on ALL income. If you do not pay taxes, you are not entitled to education, healthcare, welfare, unemployment insurance, etc..
Also, should the military draft ever be reinstated, all citizens who meet the requirements of the draft shall be required to serve in the armed forces in order to assist in protecting the country of which they have chosen to become a citizen.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a touchy subject for me.
The resolution to this issue is more simple than one may think. It all boils down to supply and availability. Cut off the benefits for illegals and eliminate the employers who willingly employ them for dirt cheap labor. The problem will resolve itself.
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters.
Begin punishing the corporations who knowingly employ illegals. Fine the $#!t out of them. Make it so that getting caught employing illegals is no longer worth the risk. By doing this, you eliminate the benefits of ultra-cheap labor for the corporations. They will stop employing illegal immigrants, which eliminates the supply of income for the illegal immigrants.
Cease the free education, welfare, healthcare, etc., for illegal immigrants. Without these benefits and income opportunities, there would be no reason for illegals to enter the U.S. illegally.
Now before anyone oversteps their bounds and calls me a racist, let me explain what also needs to take place in order for this process to succeed as a whole.
After the influx has been controlled, it is time to revamp the process of citizenship for the U.S.. This process should not take decades as is the current situation. There should be strict requirements for citizenship opportunities into the U.S., which should include THOROUGH background checks, health inspections, etc., to prevent immigrants from coming into the U.S. only to contribute to the existing crime problems, which is very much the case in our current system. More deaths are commited by illegal immigrants on a DAILY basis accross the U.S. than occur in Iraq in a month!!!
Every citizen should be required to speak, read, and write English. There should be NO translators or available translations of any U.S., State, City, or even County/Parish documents. This is not to say that people should not speak their native tongue. By all means, speak other languages, but be prepared to communicate in English, because that is the official language of the U.S..
Every citizen is required to pay taxes on ALL income. If you do not pay taxes, you are not entitled to education, healthcare, welfare, unemployment insurance, etc..
Also, should the military draft ever be reinstated, all citizens who meet the requirements of the draft shall be required to serve in the armed forces in order to assist in protecting the country of which they have chosen to become a citizen.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a touchy subject for me.
Bravo! Someone who does get it.
Originally Posted by UV7
....Cut off the benefits for illegals and eliminate the employers who willingly employ them for dirt cheap labor. The problem will resolve itself.
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters..
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters..
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Originally Posted by UV7
Flying the American flag upside down is considered a distress signal in the Army. So basically put by their symbolism with the flags, America is in distress because Mexico is taking over. ...sounds accurate.
The resolution to this issue is more simple than one may think. It all boils down to supply and availability. Cut off the benefits for illegals and eliminate the employers who willingly employ them for dirt cheap labor. The problem will resolve itself.
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters.
Begin punishing the corporations who knowingly employ illegals. Fine the $#!t out of them. Make it so that getting caught employing illegals is no longer worth the risk. By doing this, you eliminate the benefits of ultra-cheap labor for the corporations. They will stop employing illegal immigrants, which eliminates the supply of income for the illegal immigrants.
Cease the free education, welfare, healthcare, etc., for illegal immigrants. Without these benefits and income opportunities, there would be no reason for illegals to enter the U.S. illegally.
Now before anyone oversteps their bounds and calls me a racist, let me explain what also needs to take place in order for this process to succeed as a whole.
After the influx has been controlled, it is time to revamp the process of citizenship for the U.S.. This process should not take decades as is the current situation. There should be strict requirements for citizenship opportunities into the U.S., which should include THOROUGH background checks, health inspections, etc., to prevent immigrants from coming into the U.S. only to contribute to the existing crime problems, which is very much the case in our current system. More deaths are commited by illegal immigrants on a DAILY basis accross the U.S. than occur in Iraq in a month!!!
Every citizen should be required to speak, read, and write English. There should be NO translators or available translations of any U.S., State, City, or even County/Parish documents. This is not to say that people should not speak their native tongue. By all means, speak other languages, but be prepared to communicate in English, because that is the official language of the U.S..
Every citizen is required to pay taxes on ALL income. If you do not pay taxes, you are not entitled to education, healthcare, welfare, unemployment insurance, etc..
Also, should the military draft ever be reinstated, all citizens who meet the requirements of the draft shall be required to serve in the armed forces in order to assist in protecting the country of which they have chosen to become a citizen.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a touchy subject for me.
The resolution to this issue is more simple than one may think. It all boils down to supply and availability. Cut off the benefits for illegals and eliminate the employers who willingly employ them for dirt cheap labor. The problem will resolve itself.
In order to accomplish this, we need to eliminate the politicians who are allowing this influx of illegals to continue. The politicians are not willing to fight against such an issue because they are either lining their pockets from the monetary kickbacks from the corporations who (ab)use illegal workers, or they are afraid of outcasting possible votes by turning against a large population of would-be voters.
Begin punishing the corporations who knowingly employ illegals. Fine the $#!t out of them. Make it so that getting caught employing illegals is no longer worth the risk. By doing this, you eliminate the benefits of ultra-cheap labor for the corporations. They will stop employing illegal immigrants, which eliminates the supply of income for the illegal immigrants.
Cease the free education, welfare, healthcare, etc., for illegal immigrants. Without these benefits and income opportunities, there would be no reason for illegals to enter the U.S. illegally.
Now before anyone oversteps their bounds and calls me a racist, let me explain what also needs to take place in order for this process to succeed as a whole.
After the influx has been controlled, it is time to revamp the process of citizenship for the U.S.. This process should not take decades as is the current situation. There should be strict requirements for citizenship opportunities into the U.S., which should include THOROUGH background checks, health inspections, etc., to prevent immigrants from coming into the U.S. only to contribute to the existing crime problems, which is very much the case in our current system. More deaths are commited by illegal immigrants on a DAILY basis accross the U.S. than occur in Iraq in a month!!!
Every citizen should be required to speak, read, and write English. There should be NO translators or available translations of any U.S., State, City, or even County/Parish documents. This is not to say that people should not speak their native tongue. By all means, speak other languages, but be prepared to communicate in English, because that is the official language of the U.S..
Every citizen is required to pay taxes on ALL income. If you do not pay taxes, you are not entitled to education, healthcare, welfare, unemployment insurance, etc..
Also, should the military draft ever be reinstated, all citizens who meet the requirements of the draft shall be required to serve in the armed forces in order to assist in protecting the country of which they have chosen to become a citizen.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a touchy subject for me.
AMEN brother!!!
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Re: Mexican flag Over upsidedown US flag
Originally Posted by scion08
I dont know the story behind this or the meaning why they did this but it kinda ____ed me off. Any thoughts on this? I know ppl are going to diss mexicans here but try keep in mind that these ppl in this picture does not represent mexicans as a whole. I just want to know what the deal is with this because its very disrespectful and im not sure if its even legal to do this.
"The protesters put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High in California . (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)" quoted from a different forum
"The protesters put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High in California . (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)" quoted from a different forum
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Im of a mexican background, I was born in Pueblo Co and I agree with the fact that if your not here legal then you dont belong here at all. Something for all the kids to think about.........................what if we as Americans, went to another country and tried to pull the same crap, it wouldnt fly and we would get stuck in a jail cell and held there indefinetly, and then deported, I love my country and all I am saying is that its not like we as a country dont want other people to come here and live the American Dream, but if you are going to come here just do it legally, There is no reason that our tax dollars should go towards helping someone who is here illegally, when we have millions of legal citizens who are in need. Why should our tax dollars be spent on people who dont even work legally? Why should we have to support an illegal family, when they cant even obey the same laws that we have to? I mean if you really think about it, it really is not that difficult to become a citizen. If someone comes to this country and legally becomes a us citizen then they are damn right welcome, but if you illegally enter the country, illegally work and dont pay your taxes, then Im sorry you deserve everything that is coming to you.
If I break the law then I will be punished.
If you break the law then you will be punished.
If they break the law then it turns into this gigantic "anti-them/us" issue. The fact of the matter is this, if you want to live here then your more then welcome, but if you illegally enter this country and dont pay your taxes and break the law (cuz thats what is the real issue here) then you mi amigo deserve everything that is coming to you.
If I hang a Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Indian, Pakistani, Iraqi, etc, flag upside down on my front lawn, does that make me a rascist? it does not, but once someone of that decent sees my flag, all of a sudden I am rascist.
But if they (whomever "they" maybe) hang an upside down flag of the country that they are breaking the laws in because they cant be here illegally and now that "they" have broken the same laws that you and I must obey and they are being punished for, then Im sorry, cry me a river.
I would way rather have my tax dollars feed our Mothers, Fathers, Sisters and Brothers, Aunts and uncles, freinds, americans, who are fighting over seas, Then have the money go towards illegals who dont even want to follow the same laws we do.
If I have offended anyone in any way shape or form, then I do apoligize.
Im just an American who loves this country. Im so thankful that I can use my right of freedom of speech! And Im sorry that if you are here illegally and you get deported because you didnt Obide by the Laws of the Land, then please like I said before, cry me a river.
But! If you do what you are supposed to do and legally become a citizen then lets go get waisted, Ill even give ya a job. Then my freind we can go do whatever we want because thats what beautifal about America!
I heart tacos..........
If I break the law then I will be punished.
If you break the law then you will be punished.
If they break the law then it turns into this gigantic "anti-them/us" issue. The fact of the matter is this, if you want to live here then your more then welcome, but if you illegally enter this country and dont pay your taxes and break the law (cuz thats what is the real issue here) then you mi amigo deserve everything that is coming to you.
If I hang a Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Indian, Pakistani, Iraqi, etc, flag upside down on my front lawn, does that make me a rascist? it does not, but once someone of that decent sees my flag, all of a sudden I am rascist.
But if they (whomever "they" maybe) hang an upside down flag of the country that they are breaking the laws in because they cant be here illegally and now that "they" have broken the same laws that you and I must obey and they are being punished for, then Im sorry, cry me a river.
I would way rather have my tax dollars feed our Mothers, Fathers, Sisters and Brothers, Aunts and uncles, freinds, americans, who are fighting over seas, Then have the money go towards illegals who dont even want to follow the same laws we do.
If I have offended anyone in any way shape or form, then I do apoligize.
Im just an American who loves this country. Im so thankful that I can use my right of freedom of speech! And Im sorry that if you are here illegally and you get deported because you didnt Obide by the Laws of the Land, then please like I said before, cry me a river.
But! If you do what you are supposed to do and legally become a citizen then lets go get waisted, Ill even give ya a job. Then my freind we can go do whatever we want because thats what beautifal about America!
I heart tacos..........
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
Personally, I'm really against the idea of a fence. At the rate things are going, it won't be long before I want out.
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Originally Posted by SLOtC
THEY SHOULD BE KICKED OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. IF THERE COUNTRY IS SO GREAT THEN WHY THE F*** THEY HERE... GO HOME IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY WE DO THINGS HERE. i believe in freedom of expression. but i am very patriotic and crap like that ____es off alot of Americans.... let me ask this what if you did that in mexico?
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