"They are kids that normally don't set anything or anybody on fire," she said.

Does anyone else find that funny for some reason?

yeah f those kids and moreover their parents; I think both should go to jail. The parents shouldn't have to spend as much time in jail but they should be held accountable for their OWN kids! What is happening to this country? These kids are going to need major counseling to get head straight

 

I feel this type of behavior should not be tolerated, period. I could understand if the kids were under 6 yrs and going along with the group, but the kids were older and should know better. If they don't, then they need serious psychological evals along with being charge for 1st degree (Felony) animal cruelty.

As for the comment about some people have done sick things with animals and grew up to "seem" normal: You have no idea what that person does or thinks about in their personal time, the Devil has MANY disguises.

A slap on the wrist is not a good message to send, but there have been worse things that have happened in our (US) history and people have turned a blind eye on. I just found out last year, in the city of Enumclaw, WA beastiality was legal for a long time, I think the legislation passed now, but unlikely they enforce it. Now those people need to be burned!!!

 

My only point was that some animal cruelty when you're younger doesn't mean you're life will be worthless and you're gonna be a child abusing mass murderer.

Why? Because you think the parents taught them the behavior? Should this type of punishment only apply to flaming dogs or for every awful behavior a child has? Is there a study that says every child with behavior issues has a parent who caused them to act out in the first place? I don't get it.

I completely disagree. What do you base that off of?

I've had two 6 year olds and two 9 year olds so far that haven't any delays or mental disabilities and I would NEVER expect them to stand up to older children like that. Infact, if my child was in that situation, I don't think I'd want them to stand up to kids like that. Holy hell, these kids are burning a dog... what would they do to my son?[/quote]

Yeah, that's me. I've "SEEMED" normal for the past 22 years since that day. I "SEEM" to take care of my children well. I "SEEM" to not even spank them. I "SEEM" to not have any problems with the law. You're right though, nobody knows what I do or think about in my free time but, out of curiosity, what is it you fancy I do? What kind of thoughts do you think I have? I'm a devil in disguise? Nice.

 

^^ not devil... but has him on speed dial

j/k....

 

Becuase with them being that young (I'm more so speaking for the 9year old and not the 12 year old) the parents should have a damn good idea what they're doing and who they're with. At that age parents should also be held accountable, if your 9 year old breaks something at a store who would pay for you...you. If your child participates in burning a dog who should share some of the punishment...get my idea now?

 

Yeah, we all know the Devil is a big scary ___ guy (no offense)...at least that's how Stephen Lynch portrays him, not to mention South Park in which he is in a relationship with Sadam Hussein.

But seriously, a lot of people with mental issues and sociopathic tendancies start out torturing animals. As for most kids, they will tend to go along with the group as peer pressure is very influencial all through their development. So if only a couple of the kids were doing this, the others don't want to be left out in fear of ridicule and exclusion.

 

I never said stand up to the older kids, I am stating they are older than 6 and should not be allowed to have a slap on the wrist for this incident. They were old enough to know what they were doing was wrong. I can understand if they were under six, that is what I meant.

 

I was not attacking you or any one person directly, but I read where someone you knew was involved and turned out to be a pastor, which means nothing because you cannot know anyone even your own spouse 100%. Everyone has 3 sides to their personality.

Based on statistics children who take pleasure in torturing animals have a higher tendency to turn it into something deeper and darker later on in adulthood.

 

kids these days! sheesh!


lets lock em in the oven and see how they like to burn

like in saw 2! :D

 

Yeah, but here you are, 9 years old, and these towering teen agers have lighter fluid and matches that they don't appear shy about using. What do you do? Standing up to them just doesn't seem like an option. Run away? How far do you think a 9 year old gets before the 14 year old catches them? And then what happens next? Massive beating? Set on fire? Who knows, the teens are obviously psychotic.

For the 14 year olds, they should be taken out of the breeding pool.

For the 9 year olds, it just depends. They are at a cross roads in their life, one direction is the same path the 14 y.o.'s took, the other is normal life. It's important to try every means neccessary to get these kids on the right road.

 

^is that my quote? Again I am NOT saying the younger kids should have stood up for themeselves, I am trying to say they are old enough to know the difference between right and wrong and should be punished accordingly.

Yes I agree they should be sent to psychological/counseling, and community service. The older kids should be treated as adults and the punishment would be felony animal cruelty, either fine $1000+ which the parents would incur and/or juvenile detention w/community service.

I understand leniency for kids so as to not screw up the rest of their lives, but I personally cannot show leniency to anyone who crosses the line with torture, especially burning a dog alive, that is horrible. I'd rather drown than be burned alive.

 

I don't discount that they know right from wrong. The only thing I'm saying is that they very well could have been caught up in being in the wrong place at the wrong time. We don't really know what the kid's involvement was, or how it was they were with the teenagers.

Most parents are not going to knowingly allow their 9 year olds to be hanging out with 14 year olds, and most 14 year olds don't want to be seen with 9 year olds, so I'm just very curious as to how it came that they were all together at the sam time.

 

Ok. I'll state this again, because it's basic peer pressure.

Right or wrong, a child is extremely likely to do what his peers/friends are doing, reguardless of better judgement and morality, for a fear of no longer fitting in. Not to mention little kids ultimately look up to older kids, thinking if they act like the older kids, then they will hang out with them.

 

so they should go unpunished for this because of peer pressure?

 

No, but through investigation they can determine which kids are responsible and delegate punishment accordingly.

 

signed

 

ah, I agree. Hope the ones who orchestrated the thing get max punishment. I LOVE MY PITBULL!

 

I'm glad you do, you should always love your pets like they're part of the family.

I'm personally never going to own a pet whose lineage and breed history/reputation is such that it could snap unexpectedly at any moment, but aside from that pitbulls are pretty cool.

 

uhm yeah, pits don't snap unexpectadly, that's just media hype. the ones that attack are always abused.

i did the research on this, and more people die every year from falling down than have been killed in the past 25 years by pits.

 

More people die in car wrecks than falling off a horse too, should saftety equipment not be used for kids riding a horse?

Their reputation follows them around because it's been well documented. The'yre the most unreliable breed available.