make sure when u get one that u understand that there are different strengths to them. like 1 stop, 2 stop, etc. Also a CPL can be used as one partially cause it's the same thing but it just adds an effect. A CPL can cut u down 1 to 2 stops just like an ND can.

 

Yeah I had my CPL on when I was at the last drift event but it wasn't stopping it down enough. I think I had to have the aperture at f/11 to get the shutter speed down. I think a 2 stop filter will do the job.

 

yeah that should help. how far did u lower ur ISO?

 

200

 

is that as low as u can go? I can take my 5d all the way down to 50 so that helps me a lot with stopping down.

 

damn i wish i could go as low as 50..

 

Yeah that's as low as I can go on the D40. When I get my D200 I'll be able to go down to 100.

 

wow i didn't know they wouldn't let u go past 200. I thought most cameras let u go down to at least 100. I can go from 50-3200.

Guess it is just CANON cameras that let u go down to 100 on even the starter bodies? Maybe that is why the equation is CANON > nikon and Canon=FTW! ha ha

 

Lol or maybe Nikon cameras don't need that low of an ISO to get superior image quality.

 

yeah they don't need to go that low, cause their shooters wouldn't know any better anyways.... ha ha

 

Hmmm if i do recall correctly, isn't one of the biggest gripes from Canon users about Nikon cameras is that they're too complicated for them? hehe

 

not too complicated. Complex for no reason. y would u put all ur controls in the menu system instead of on the body where just a click of a button could get it done rather have having to pull the body away from ur face and missing the shots? guess that is why at sporting events u see nothing but white lenses. Cause they don't have to look away just to change basic settings. ha ha

http://petesphotographyjapan.smugmug...554_HDDpn-O-LB

yeah i don't see any Nikons in there. Maybe he is up in the stands with the rest of the amateurs ha ha

 

I don't recall having to go into the menu for simple stuff, ie wb, iso, etc. on the D50 and above.

 

oh sorry, what were we talking bout? i was just trying to decide what ISO i wanted to use. SOOOO many options. ha ha

 

so.... how many times did Canon tried to fix their problem about getting their software update right? i believe that was on the 5d too. also, didnt Canon have to recall their camera cuz the software on them was faulty? oh, and quoted from this site:

http://www.dentonimages.com/page.php...amera_Failures


The Luminous Landscape compiled a list of failures amongst nearly 80 photographers on their Antarctic Expedition. The results may upset some brand loyalists.

Here is a summary of their findings:

* Conditions faced were light rain, temperature hovering around freezing (-3C to +2C), salt spray, so not exactly extreme conditions.
* 77 Photographers and Instructors went, so a lot of gear.
* About 70% shooting Canon, 30% shooting Nikon, one Sony user, ten Phase One backs.
* Sony A900: They took two plus seven lenses, performed flawlessly.
* The Canon EOS 5D Mark II lent to them to test by Canon failed on the first day ashore in rain.
* Canon 5D Mark II's were hit the hardest - six failures out of 26 cameras (almost 25%). After warming up/drying out three recovered, three didn't. All appeared to be water/humidity damage. Two of the failures were using Kata rain covers in light rain.
* Several reports of water collecting between the battery grip and base on the Canon 5D Mark II.
* A Canon 1D MKIII kept reporting Error 99.
* A Hasselblad reported electronic lens connection problems.
* Two Canon G9's failed.
* No Canon G10 failures out of approx 30 that went on the trip.
* A Nikon 80-400mm lens came apart.
* No Nikon bodies (mostly D700s) failed in any way.

 

^ i think that article was posted before.. very very interesting though.... surprised that the sony one held up.. always thought they were an inferior wannabe but in my photo class one guy had one and he told me it was a pretty good piece of equipment..

and all this talk about ISO got me thinking.. i read somewhere that my 40D goes up to 3200 but it wont let me do that.. did i read wrong or is that the 50D?

and also.. i stole my 17-85 back from my brother. i miss having some wide angle distortion. craving for a 10-22...

 

nikon doesnt display exposure information in the view finder? thats a big handicap, if thats the case, changing exposure on the fly with the nikon will be much slower.

 

50D goes up to 3200, but IQ is so bad there's no point.

 

They do.

 

Can you guys shut up with your Nikon/Canon war? It gets old....real fast.