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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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I have a question.

Who all works there thats part of the communitty.

Whoever does this is directed towards you.

A girl i know justbought an xB2 bout 4 months ago. Just last tuesday 8/5/08 she had a remote start put into it. and now she is having problems with it. the remote starts the car and wen she goes to unlock the car to get in it kills the car. she says shew takn it to the dealer to have it fixed. but all the people there keep telling her that it is and aftermarket issue, and its a common problem that the xb2's have been having. So they told her that she basically has to just deal with it.


Is this correct??????
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PHXLOCO
I have a question.

Who all works there thats part of the communitty.

Whoever does this is directed towards you.

A girl i know justbought an xB2 bout 4 months ago. Just last tuesday 8/5/08 she had a remote start put into it. and now she is having problems with it. the remote starts the car and wen she goes to unlock the car to get in it kills the car. she says shew takn it to the dealer to have it fixed. but all the people there keep telling her that it is and aftermarket issue, and its a common problem that the xb2's have been having. So they told her that she basically has to just deal with it.


Is this correct??????
Contact Rob Ginis at Avondale. He is the Scion Manager and he will address this for her.

He's not active in the community though so just have her call him.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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Did Avondale put in the remote start? If it was put in through them, they are responsible. If it was put in by someone else, they are responsible. I honestly prefer to use Compustar. Listenup sells and installs this brand. They even make and install one for manual transmissions.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:05 AM
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If Avondale sold it they'll step up and take care of it. Otherwise I agree with Mr G.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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dad, the remote start was installed through avondale.

mark. i will let her know.
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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We havent seen issues like this. Sounds like the Scion Manager there is the person to talk too.
Old Aug 13, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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"They installed a factory remote start its made for the scion and it is suppose to turn off when i unlock the car. I am just not happy with it. They stated that i had to use the scion product because after market ones mess up the computers in the scion>>>>"

is this tru guys???
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Yep. I have the same starter. It will turn off when you disarm the alarm or unlock the locks. It will also flash the hazards for 20 seconds when it starts up.

Scion should have provided the Remote Start Owner's Manual. It has all the specifics (like it only runs 10 mins and turns off. If you restart it remotely again, it runs another 10 mins, but shuts off and stays off till you start it manually).
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We installed this remote start a few times at Precision Scion and from my understanding the lock is used to start the car (push lock button 3 times time and hold to start) but if you need to get in the car or ( unlock or key in ignition) it turns off. Toyota did this for safety but kinda throws the whole "convenience" factor out since it turns itself off after every action.
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Originally Posted by PHXLOCO
"They installed a factory remote start its made for the scion and it is suppose to turn off when i unlock the car. I am just not happy with it. They stated that i had to use the scion product because after market ones mess up the computers in the scion>>>>"

is this tru guys???
No. You just need to NOT let a hack work on your car.

My xB has had a remote start in it for three years.... and it's a 5-speed. No waiver was needed either.

Aftermarket solution, no worries.
Old Aug 14, 2008 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Nu_ERA
We installed this remote start a few times at Precision Scion and from my understanding the lock is used to start the car (push lock button 3 times time and hold to start) but if you need to get in the car or ( unlock or key in ignition) it turns off. Toyota did this for safety but kinda throws the whole "convenience" factor out since it turns itself off after every action.
That does not make sense. I could see extra safety in a remote start for a manual transmission, but not an automatic. This is an automatic. There is no reason a remote start should turn off the car. If so, what is the purpose of having remote start. Even if it were manual, you put in a neutral safety situation with a series of things you have to do before you could do a remote start. If this thing turns off, Scion really went wrong with that remote start...
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The factory remote start is NOT the one you want if you want to hop in your scion while its running. Have it removed and have them have the aftermarket unit put in instead.
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by n2htwlz
The factory remote start is NOT the one you want if you want to hop in your scion while its running. Have it removed and have them have the aftermarket unit put in instead.
From what I understand of the situation, they had the aftermarket put in and installed by Avondale and they do not want to cover it. They say she should have bought the Scion Remote start. BTW: It is great to see you made it to Idaho.
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Is the alarm/remote start factory or aftermarket? That is the question here.
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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ok. from what i understand. she bought her car from avaondale a few months ago. (xB2). just about 2 weeks ago she had a remote start installed. (dont know if its part of an alarm). when she was givin choices of which remote start to get she was pushed into getting the scion remote start. the reason being is because all the aftermarket remote starts will mess the the SCIONs computer up.

I will get more info!
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 04:24 AM
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Sounds like a misunderstanding. Avondale is usually awesome on all acounts. I'm sure once you talk to the manager the issue will be resolved. See they know that us scion owners have an extreme word of mouth following. So I'm sure they will do you right...

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