Originally Posted by rj

Sorry Tim, I am not picking on you just using your post. Your right not everyone can be pleased, never will happen we are too diverse of a culture for everyone to have the warm fuzzy feeling.
IMO and I have seen it in the the Mini truck community as well. Everone gets to the point where everything seems the same over and over. Little things adds up and it just starts to eat into everyone and draws out that drama.. We used to joke when the drama got really bad.. what we needed was a good truck run (endless summer, Spring Splash) that usally fixed things.
What makes it worse we are all arm chair warriors.. Our mouths, tempers, egos run rampid here on line since we are behind a monitor and not face to face. We all have a tendancy to rant and rave before we think it out 100% thru, then later after its been blasted out there and we sit back and look at it. I just seems silly ,stupid, dumb, etc, but the damage has been done.
Now this is what amazes me most.. You have several key members in this community that don't seem to want to step it up and help with the overall community togetherness thing It might be a lost cause but, lost causes are always the best to work to fix.. .. and Yes, I am going to call out some people/groups and dang the torpedos all ahead full. Randy.. YOU amaze me the most.. Your livelyhood, income, job is basically modding Scions and what ever cars end up in your shop. You have the most to loose but, you don't seem to want to get involved (I know at some point you cannot, just good business sense) but still. I will say you do some awesome work and you make it work but, sometime you gotta put your foot down. You may not like it but, you are one of many key figures in the Scion community..
Chad called you out and others the other day in the SA forum post and what you do.. You backed down at a major opportunity to help yourself.. SA, Scikotics, other clubs, and the community and of course any chairity that it helped

Originally Posted by rj

Sorry Tim, I am not picking on you just using your post. Your right not everyone can be pleased, never will happen we are too diverse of a culture for everyone to have the warm fuzzy feeling.
IMO and I have seen it in the the Mini truck community as well. Everone gets to the point where everything seems the same over and over. Little things adds up and it just starts to eat into everyone and draws out that drama.. We used to joke when the drama got really bad.. what we needed was a good truck run (endless summer, Spring Splash) that usally fixed things.
What makes it worse we are all arm chair warriors.. Our mouths, tempers, egos run rampid here on line since we are behind a monitor and not face to face. We all have a tendancy to rant and rave before we think it out 100% thru, then later after its been blasted out there and we sit back and look at it. I just seems silly ,stupid, dumb, etc, but the damage has been done.
Now this is what amazes me most.. You have several key members in this community that don't seem to want to step it up and help with the overall community togetherness thing It might be a lost cause but, lost causes are always the best to work to fix.. .. and Yes, I am going to call out some people/groups and dang the torpedos all ahead full. Randy.. YOU amaze me the most.. Your livelyhood, income, job is basically modding Scions and what ever cars end up in your shop. You have the most to loose but, you don't seem to want to get involved (I know at some point you cannot, just good business sense) but still. I will say you do some awesome work and you make it work but, sometime you gotta put your foot down. You may not like it but, you are one of many key figures in the Scion community..
Chad called you out and others the other day in the SA forum post and what you do.. You backed down at a major opportunity to help yourself.. SA, Scikotics, other clubs, and the community and of course any chairity that it helped

Other Key figures are the dealerships, the clubs, and of course the Scion loving crazy people which is all of us. I will be the first to say.. Sorry man.. Not trying to pick on you but just maybe kick you in the shorts a bit for some motovation.
We get those that just cannot seem to have anything good to say and others that just are nothing but the soul and heart of our (yes OUR) community.
Now other people I will call out are the Clubs, Oh man.. you all have your own drama within your clubs to deal with.. BUT dont forget to look outside your cliche there are those around you not involved with the clubs that catch the overflow of drama within your ranks. I think being a club member is the hardest part.. You have to Keep your self in check.. your club members in check and keep the crap that is outside your club from creating drama that drags you down. I don't miss those days at all.
Sorry this is starting to turn to a rant and I did not want it to I am also tired
So I am just putting out some of my opinions down. I have typed out sooo much stuff and just deleted it cause I did not want to mess with getting involved anymore. I have spend 20+ years in/out of car clubs, in the mini trucking scene and show scene and its in my blood. I cannot stay out long without getting back into it.

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Oh Mooneyez, for such a little guy you have a bigger heart than most.. keep it up bro, Same with Rockblocker and others out there I know I am forgetting
For those others that are lurking out there like I have been for several months..
this is YOUR community as well.. do not feel like you dont need to chime in.
One of the ladys I worked with had a motto.. All it takes is a few snowflakes to create a snowstorm (dunno we are in arizona whos see's snow) Just takes a few people to start getting going on the right path.

Those that are and I know your are.. going to chime in with inappropiate content, all I can say.. you add to the problem, why don't you take a step back and see what your doing and think it out.
And for those out there that are going to still rip this apart.. feel free, its just words

sorry for any misspelling and grammar I just got off shift and its 12:30 at night. So good night

Originally Posted by randode

What do you want me to do? I have no drama, I don't feel its my responsibility to deal with everyone else's. I just want to build cars. What wrong with that?

Originally Posted by joey

^^^^^
Those that are and I know your are.. going to chime in with inappropiate content, all I can say.. you add to the problem, why don't you take a step back and see what your doing and think it out.
And for those out there that are going to still rip this apart.. feel free, its just words

Originally Posted by Dwestxb

I like how backing Randy is inappropriate, but backing rockblocker, mooneyes, or your hubby is ok...

Originally Posted by Dwestxb

I like how backing Randy is inappropriate, but backing rockblocker, mooneyes, or your hubby is ok...

Originally Posted by Dwestxb

I like how backing Randy is inappropriate, but backing rockblocker, mooneyes, or your hubby is ok...

Originally Posted by randode

What do you want me to do? I have no drama, I don't feel its my responsibility to deal with everyone else's. I just want to build cars. What wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Garage1217

I think she was more speaking about you dropping in and swingin from Randy's sack because she knew you would cause a mess like you usually do if Randy was in the post. I do not know you either but from all I have read and watched, you have no need to be in the d&s forum if all you want to do is ____ people off. Randy seems to do good work with scions, keep the drama out of it.

Originally Posted by Dwestxb

Who are the ones starting the drama???? Looks to me like its Rockblocker, rj, mooneyz, and sysko. They are the ones that started all these threads and keep bringing this bs up. I will always support Randy because none of you morons have any idea what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by bbcrud

I don't have any problem with that RJ. Anyone else?

Originally Posted by Dwestxb

Who are the ones starting the drama???? Looks to me like its Rockblocker, rj, mooneyz, and sysko. They are the ones that started all these threads and keep bringing this bs up. I will always support Randy because none of you morons have any idea what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Dwestxb

I like how backing Randy is inappropriate, but backing rockblocker, mooneyes, or your hubby is ok...

Originally Posted by Crispyxb

See this is Drama. Everyone calling everyone out. I respect Randy, RJ, Joey, Mooneyz, Rockblocker, and everyone else. I just dont wanna hear everyone telling everyone what they need to be doing. The whole community is split, and has been for some time. There are the Scikotics, ScionApocalypse, the scionetics, and the group of the east valley guys. No one is really doing anything to help the community. Im not trying to call anyone out, but everyone wants Randy to step up for the community. Well what has everyone else done lately? I havent seen anyone out side of ScionApocalypse or Scikotics in a very long time. I enjoy when everyone comes around.

The issue with clubs doing there own thing is dumb. Thats why there are clubs. If this club invites that club or what not, then why are there clubs. I agree that we should all get together and do something as a whole, but making sure that everyone is invited to some club invents is kinda much.

Like I said before, I respect all of you. there of course is the 1-2% that arent that friendly or what not. I just wish the bashing would stop. I know I aint really anything in this community besides another guy with a Scion. But I wanted to say my peace.

Hope to see yall this Saturday.

PEACE!

Originally Posted by rj

Well its come to pass.. its time to get this community back on its feet.. If those who just want to sit there and let them pass it by.. Fine... Its all good.. People come and go its a fact of life.. Lets build it back for all those newbies getting their first ride and getting it modded to experience what we did of the past..