ok, first all dwest, get off my sack.


Second, I just want to build cars. Thats It.
If I make a little money for diapers in the process, thats a bonus.
As far as tapping the scion community to sell parts and installs.... Thats simply not true. I have modded MANY cars for cost, or even free to help people out. Its not about the money, its about the love for what I do.
If theres something wrong with that, then I guess i'm guilty.


I could go on and on, but i wont. I'm so tired of this crap.
Like I don't have my hands full with all of the other non-scion stuff in my life.
Good night, i'm done.

 

Hilarious. There isn't any drama. All I was asking was for people who can and want to, to step up and make this work. The reasons this is comes up again and again is because, when there is an issue, people post, it starts to go somewhere, someone gets mad, locks it down and it doesn't get resolved. So I say, let it hang out, till there is nothing left for anyone to carry, so this can get put back together.

I could get on you're level Dwest and start Shyte talking, the truth is, I don't know you and it wouldn't get this group anywhere. YOU SHOULD back Randy, he's family and Freakin good at what he does. But don't make things worse.

Randy, Man I don't know you. I asked you to do work for me once and you looked at me like I annoyed you and walked away with out saying anything. I know you get hit up every which way from Sunday for stuff and it' gets old. Nobody want's you to baby sit this, or make other peoples problems your own. Everyone here, is inviting you to participate in this because if anyone can represent what potential these cars have, it's you. Nobody is forcing you or begging you to do anything. The truth is, when you show up, you bring a lot with you in talent and creativity. That's all. Take an hour of your time and show everyone what you have done or not, that's all.

 

Hi my name is Tim and I'm a scionaholic...

I gotta admit, I just read all three pages folks and this really is childish...Calling someone out and EXPECTING a response probably isn't the best approach...This is just MY opinion...If Randy choses not to use a forum such as this to air the "Bull Sh^t" then so be it...I don't think he needs to be chastised and scrutinized for it...I really dont know where we went wrong as a community...It's sad but so very true!

 

I dunno Tim. I think calling people out for their acts of hostility is the only thing you can do.

The second part would be TO SHOW UP SATURDAY and help get this show back on track and rolling.

 

well, it seems that ppl want to hear a Scikotic in here, and i guess i need to say my part in this matter, so here goes...

the following statement DOES NOT reflect the views of any other member of scikotics. its just my personal opinion. its a freakin storybook novel, but just bear with me...

when I moved back here about a year and a half ago, this community welcomed Erica and I with open arms. I was new to the scion world, and my first meet and greet with all of you was when we went to glendale to see Tokyo Drift. I remember thinking that the scion community out here was like no group that i had ever known. everyone was friendly like they had known each other since grade school, and did not treat me like a stranger, or the new guy that i was. its as if i was instantly a part of this new-found wonderful family.

since that first meeting, i have tried to become as active as possible within this community because it was something that i felt good about. this eventually led to me being one of the founding members of the phoenix chapter of Scikotics. once the chapter was officialy formed, things continued like normal within the community for me . i would go to every meet and greet i could possibly attend as well as car shows and other various events. SA was formed around the same time as us. they put on their first show, and a couple months later, we put on ours. both were a huge success- lots of ppl having a great time- what it should be about. our members attended their show, and vice-versa. no one cared who was in a club or not. sure there was bickering and arguments on SL, but things like that are gonna happen no matter what.

skip to present day.

what the hell is going on around here? why is everyone losing their tempers behind the computer screen? did you all forget why we do what it is we do? that it is US who made the community what it was (and also what it has now become)?

people are blowing things WAY out of porportion (sp?), people are taking pot-shots at others because they cant man up and let it go (and before anyone gets any wrong ideas- i AM NOT spaeking of ANY specific people or instances. this is just in general based on events over the past 6-8 months). all this 'he said, she said' crap makes me sick. were all adults here, so why dont we start acting like adults? lots of other things i see irritate me as well, but i am a person that will purposely try and keep my mouth shut because i dont want someone to take something the wrong way. basically adding fuel to the fire...

i understand that i am only one person in a very large community, but this is an open forum, and everyone should be heard, but are we truly listening, or just waiting for our turn to speak?


i know the thread that Rockblocker started got locked, so im just gonna post my response here because i was called out, and everyone should hear what i have to say:
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Phoenix Scikotics does try to attend (and have in recent memory) EVERY open event that goes on out here as well as some events out of state. not only to promote the Scikotics name, and Camelback, but because we love doing it. sometimes more members can attend than others, but we make it a point to at least have someone there to represent. our meetings are and always have been open to anyone within the community to attend- even if you dont drive a Scion. we are in the works to do various things for the community. we have already put together a great car show back in February and are planning another bigger and better show for the near future. we do go to damn near every meet and greet that ever pops up, and I have already discussed the possibility of a joint-venture event for Scikotics and Scion Apocalypse with Randy (who thought it was a great idea and many members of SA shared the same opinion). we do not have Scikotic-only events. anything we do or attend is always open to everyone.

as far as the whole no respect thing goes, we make it a point to respect EVERYONE regardless of who you are. treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. thats what i live by. if people dont respect us, thats on them. you have to give respect to get it, but because we are who we are- we respect everyone regardless.

another thing you have to understand is that before these 2 clubs popped up, we were all one group. we constantly make an effort to act as one when it comes to the community, but now that there are different organizations, we do have to commit some time to our clubs. especially people like myself and Randy- who are in charge of our respective groups. its not anything personal toward the community and those who are not involved in a club, but its something that is gonna happen.
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i am still an active member here on SL, and will continue to do so- but is it really that hard to understand why some ppl would much rather post on their own forums instead of on here? maybe because they dont want people taking something they say the wrong way and blowing it up, making a HUGE deal about it, and turning it into something it was never intended to be.

i dont know guys. i dont know how to fix things around here, but if some of us can come together like we are planning this saturday, then thats a start right? when the paper is crumpled up, it cant be perfect again. but we can damn sure try.

thats my soapbox speech. thanks for listening.

 

Thanks Jason(Kiss) for stepping into this. As a person and a club prez its nice to see someone take the challange and not back down. It will take everyone to help get us going on track. So please step up.. speak out.. BUT please think about what your going to say.. Don't fire off at the hip.


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To Scotts Done, done and DONE thread since he did not unlock that..


Your all right.. but Scott as Mr. Mod has to do his job too. I did talk to him last night to let him know what was going on and use judgment. He does have the unfun part of playing judge in this mess, its unfair to him but he signed up for Mod. I wouldn't want the task in trying to follow my heart or follow forum rules.. Don't start getting upset at him. Unfortunately when our threads were kind of making some headroom things happened and turned them to the worse. Some of our issues popped up and he had to shut it down before it went to farther that it did. I am trying to be neutral here cause I know there is a lot left to be said and more dirt to be tossed out on the plate so we can sift thru it all and clean it off. If I hurt some feelings last night.. All I can say is Good.. if it hurt then you know something is wrong and has to be fixed. 90% of you have my phone number call or txt me. Right now txt'n is the easiest since I cannot talk on shift at the engine shop. I am putting it out there to everyone.. You know what we face here, think about it and sort it out. Just remember NOT to take it too personal
We need solutions not anger, no more ____ing contests, and no more egos. Bring your heart to bear and take the 5-second rule and think outside the box (haha nice pun, sorry) and outside your circle of life.

And to all out there.. T G I F

 

Nothing wrong with that Randy. Really. We'd just like you to use some of that "love" to help get things moving again. You enjoy hero status in the community. You've started a club that, deservedly or not, has been in the middle of the garbage going on here as often as not (and only because of the acts of a handful of members or associates).

So RJ calls you out and you go Charles Barkley on us. That doesn't work man.

Everyone on here has a non-Scion life they deal with. Some of them are still making the effort to get the air cleared and get the magic back.

We know you don't like the attention. We get that you would just rather be in your garage modding cars. But, like it or not, you are a role model and, with that, comes a little responsibility.