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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 06:17 AM
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Sorry but I just watched a Ford commercial and they in this documentary style way said they were now on the same level of build quality/tech quality as Toyota....

I had to post that sorry....

If it's the wrong place for this move it I don't care I just had to post this.
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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they are on the same level with toyota...several decades ago...which is coming a long way for them.
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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Maybe same level as, they both make vehicles...thats where the line is drawn IMO.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
they are on the same level with toyota...several decades ago...which is coming a long way for them.
Do you mean now they are on the same level with Toyota from the 70's?? I am not sure
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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I saw the same commercial a few days ago and I couldn't help but laugh at their ridiculous claim.
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Originally Posted by INFINI
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they are on the same level with toyota...several decades ago...which is coming a long way for them.
Do you mean now they are on the same level with Toyota from the 70's?? I am not sure
yes, fords build quality and technology level is almost up to where toyota was in the late 70's, early 80's. which means they have come a long way in their own right. lol.
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wow.... and they bought out Jaguar, Aston Martin, and many more
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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^funny spelling of austen marin, lol, but yea fords suck
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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F_ck FORD!......damn Poop-stangs!....EErrrrrrrr
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and then it sold jaguar and land rover to tata motors of india.

dodge, ford and gm are the worst things to happen to the automotive industry since the 70's...
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I really wish I could get a video feed of that commercial....
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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i saw that comercial like last week and i laughed for a good 15 minutes about it, that commercial pretty much said "Toyota has had a quality level we haven't had ever, so go buy a Toyota"
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what does "build quality" exactly mean? its too vague.

maybe that claim refers to trucks, but Ford is trying to apply to all their vehicles. Toyota and Nissan have barely caught up with Ford in truck design, but truck guys say the next F150 is going to blow them away. Ford sells more trucks than anyone this year and ever.
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Article in Brandweek "Q+A: Ford's Farley Takes On Toyota With A 'Quality' Ad Pitch " :

Brandweek: When you came to Ford on your first day last fall, what was your biggest challenge as a marketer?

Jim Farley: It was perception. Every dealer was telling me he had the best products that Ford had made in years. I just came from Toyota, and I said 'yeah, right.' But I got into some of these, the Fusion, the Edge, and I was completely surprised. They were right, this was some really good product. Why didn't anyone know about these? Here Toyota and Honda had these great CUVs, but Ford had the Edge, which is better than those.

BW: Was this lack of awareness a function of marketing?

JF: Not really. Look at the Edge now. It's reached sales of 130,000. They were driven by the product which is what is shaping this new effort, "Drive one." It's the only credible way to market now. You can go out and talk about new products over and over, but they have to actually be good products to start. And having someone you know, someone you trust, tell you that it is a good product.

BW: Who comes to mind when it comes to the idea of just putting the brand out there and letting people talk about it ?

JF: Toyota is one; simple advertising, people have good awareness of its quality. Nike has plenty of mojo without relying on fancy ads. Nike leverages relationships with athletes to get its brand out there, and people already know its products. Nordstrom doesn't do crazy advertising. Southwest Airlines is a great brand, aside from its recent troubles; it has great product advocacy. And that's what Ford is doing now.



BW: At the auto show in Detroit last year, Ford was running challenge ads where the Ford Fusion was compared to Toyota.

JF: And I said, 'Thanks for the free ad.'

BW: Exactly. Are you going to stop that practice now at Ford?

JF: Good quality is good quality, and if it helps the brand, I think it can work. We've been fortunate at Ford in that the quality perception is very high in places where the trucks sell so well, in places like Texas and the Midwest. Sometimes you might need a push in other places and we use that. In the new campaign, we mention that Ford is rated equal in quality to Toyota. It helps Toyota, but it also reinforces what Ford is. What I wouldn't do is something like Saturn, where it actually brought other brands [Toyota and Honda] into the showroom to ask consumers to compare. As a marketer, you have to know the influence of discovery.
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Originally Posted by HKSpeed
what does "build quality" exactly mean? its too vague.

maybe that claim refers to trucks, but Ford is trying to apply to all their vehicles. Toyota and Nissan have barely caught up with Ford in truck design
x motha effin 2

TeeCizzle, please dont be like those honda fanboys bashing on other companies ....IMO there are so many different arguements one could come up with in why ford is better/worse than toyota. Ford does not F#$#$ suck tho....one thing everyone has to remember is, like HKSpeed said, ford makes trucks....thats what there known for.... whats there pitch line?......."BUILT FORD TOUGH"...what are the majority of commercials you see on tv of?.....ford TRUCKS(F150,F250,F350).......
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Originally Posted by TeeCizzle
F_ck FORD!......damn Poop-stangs!....EErrrrrrrr

Ford FTW!!!!!! 05 xB FS for 08 corbra.
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Okay, to clear things up. They are in reference to JD Power's Initial Quality test. Basically JD Powers is known widely for being paid off by just about everyone, especially Hyundai. Plus, the Initial Quality test is the dumbest test they could possibly run. It's customer satisfaction with the vehicle during the first 3 months. The 3 months in which the customer babies the hell out of his/her car. The 3 months where only lemons will have problems. Go past that and look at TSBs and recalls and you'll see hundreds for every Ford vehicle.

Advertising can be very deceptive.
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Originally Posted by Akrylic09
Originally Posted by HKSpeed
what does "build quality" exactly mean? its too vague.

maybe that claim refers to trucks, but Ford is trying to apply to all their vehicles. Toyota and Nissan have barely caught up with Ford in truck design
x motha effin 2

TeeCizzle, please dont be like those honda fanboys bashing on other companies ....IMO there are so many different arguements one could come up with in why ford is better/worse than toyota. Ford does not F#$#$ suck tho....one thing everyone has to remember is, like HKSpeed said, ford makes trucks....thats what there known for.... whats there pitch line?......."BUILT FORD TOUGH"...what are the majority of commercials you see on tv of?.....ford TRUCKS(F150,F250,F350).......
Are u Serious?....u must be a FORD lover huh??

The integrity of a FORD is Poop.....how many FORD's look good after 5+ yrs????
without spending money on mechanical repairs?

FORD almost went Bankrupt because their products SUCK!...

Thats why I will NOT own a Mazda either..Maybe one Pre-90's...
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yea i am serious
when it comes to trucks...i am a ford lover....when it comes to cars....not so much....i use to own a Pre-runner'd Ranger before i got my tC. Never.....ever did i have a problem with it.....please if you dont know what your talking about .....STFU and GTFO . thank you
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Akrylic09
yea i am serious
when it comes to trucks...i am a ford lover....when it comes to cars....not so much....i use to own a Pre-runner'd Ranger before i got my tC. Never.....ever did i have a problem with it.....please if you dont know what your talking about .....be quiet and GTFO . thank you

Yo Ivan, drop it just a notch Kid. This is all based on opinion, Everone is entitled to it.



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