Tho I'm not a Ford, GM or an american car fan, Ford may not be a laughing matter for long..word has it that the former president for Scion Jim farley may be taking over the head position there soon. So with his previousl success with Toyota, Scion and Lexus, I'm sure things may be looking up for them. But I'll stay a Toyota, Acura, Benzo and Bmer loyalist..Peace

 

For sure!! If that does happen I can see some good things happening for Ford. Jim Farley is one smart cookie

 

well you cant really bag too much on american cars. like said before, if a Mazda still carries the Mazdaspeed badge or has a rotary engine, then its still Mazda quality. and dont forget, toyota and GM had a contract together once before as seen with the Matrix and the Pontiac Vibe, and the Toyota Cavalier in Japan............................. damn does that mean anyone who has a late 90's cavalier can be JDM also??????? anyways what im trying to say is that with all the collaborations/buy outs, i mean some ideas on quality should have crossed lines somewhere

 

hmmmm so just because there "real corn fed farming men" makes your statement that much more valid? i think not. My father ownes a construction company and uses his F250 to haul around his bobcats and other equip, we use it to tow our fifthwheel toyhauler, we use it for everything you can possibly think of. in the end, it all comes down to preference. if your a ford guy... your gonna say that chevys and rams suck. if your a chevy guy your gonna say that fords and rams suck.....it can go on and on. now i dont know whether your talking about diesels or gas trucks but when it comes down to facts every company has there strengths. Chevy/GMC= there Allison trans, Dodge=Cummings engines, Fords= Powerstroke engines made by Recon.

not true, they actually had threee different gen motors in there trucks. From 88-03 they used the 7.3liter which by far the best motor they used, from 04-07 they used the 6.0 liter, and now in 08 they use the 6.0liter twin turbo and cause of emissions in CA have to have particulate filters.

 

The F-150 is the best selling vehicle in the country for a reason...If you can't honestly accept that, then you're a bigot.

Let's say for the past 20 years, the F-150 was the biggest piece of garbage. I think 20 years of customers having too many complaints and problems would steer them away from staying with that vehicle. But in reality, that's not what happened.

 

very true

 

I'm a fully certified Ford FACT technician. I don't even work on cars and I'm more certified than 80% of Ford techs in this country. I've seen the cars inside and out, and yes, cars like the Focus, 500, Tauras...are pieces of shiat. But things like the F-1/250, Mustang GT, GT..are a completely different story. They're made with so much more care and you honestly wouldn't think they were made by the same people that made the Focus.

In terms of car quality, Toyota is light years ahead of Ford.

In terms of heavy-duty and Sports/Supercars, Ford is light years ahead of Toyota.

 

with all due respect .... ford started the engine ... so everyone can just stfu and leave this topic alone lol

and pretty much without that we would probably still be horse and buggy ____ so just let it go every car manufacturer has different ideas hence why we have so many different kinds of cars

just let it go

 

Ford didn't start the engine. The french did.

Unless you're talking in metaphors and meant that they started the production line...

 

Come to Knotts berry farm this sunday for a big Ford show and talk like that there.

MODEL A! CAROL SHELBY! SALEEN FTW!

Just to throw it in here!!!!



HOW bout this!!! Ford next to a Scion FTW!



Happy Friday !!!1

 

tell Big Chris that I would run him any day. lol.

 

SURE BUDDY! lol

 

bigot
One entry found.

bigot

Main Entry:
big·ot Listen to the pronunciation of bigot
Pronunciation:
\ˈbi-gət\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
French, hypocrite, bigot
Date:
1660

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed Listen to the pronunciation of bigoted \-gə-təd\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb


Sad your that much more qualified than the guys working on FORD cars.... some people however accept allot out of the corporate world. They get used and don't even know it. I am not trying to contradict you. I know you know more than I do about Ford, however when I sold them I can distinctively remember the "six figure income" sales manager talking to us about the F150. He said things like. "Well they don't know the trans is gonna fail at 90k" but he was pushing us to sell the $15k car like crazy.

I quit that job pretty soon after. I could not sell a car I did not believe in or that I knew I was not being honest about to the buyer.