FRS is a dog [opinion]
What I thought was the funniest about this thread is the 6foot 190lb body frame saying his back can't fit in the drivers seat...lol. Side bolsters to much for him I guess. Even Jay Leno fits in the seat...
I'm 245lbs and 6ft. My back is very very wide and I fit in the seats almost comfortably. I just don't like the power of the car. That's the ONLY thing I didn't like. The car definitely has tons of potential.
I'm guessing its the ff4 challenge this weekend. What are ur times at sow n big willow with ur s2k? Chris Rado tc2 is going this weekend to the ff4 challenge
I don't have a big willow time, but this weekend I will.
SoW CCW ~1:30. No official time. Just basing it on who I was ahead of.
SoW CW 1:32.8. Not my finest work.
Here's a 2:25 lap on VIR full course this dude did in a borrowed FRS, stock brakes, tires, stock everything. I like how it has the HUD from the acquisition unit.
http://youtu.be/2drf9haYe7s
http://youtu.be/2drf9haYe7s
I believe that's Saturday, I'm going Sunday. I would love to go on Sat for it but I don't consider myself a top level driver so I can't sign up.
I don't have a big willow time, but this weekend I will.
SoW CCW ~1:30. No official time. Just basing it on who I was ahead of.
SoW CW 1:32.8. Not my finest work.
I don't have a big willow time, but this weekend I will.
SoW CCW ~1:30. No official time. Just basing it on who I was ahead of.
SoW CW 1:32.8. Not my finest work.
Sow ccw- 1:32.xxx
Sow cw- 1:34 but with some improvement I can drop a sec or more. Should be able to beat this time on July 7th for the night event. That's if all goes well.
To the OP..
It's not all about power.. It's about BALANCE and having USEABLE power for driving in the REAL world. A true sports car is about being light weight and nimble.. You need to drive it like a sports car to get power from it...
0-60 in 6.2 is respectable and totally useable..
I recently sold my 08 vette with 436 HP and all the torque one expects out of an American V8.. It was a blast ripping to 60 and being pushed back in the seat or lighting up the tires at will.. but in the real world.. its difficult to have fun in it because its too quick and u cant push it and enjoy its limits..
It's more fun to wind out the gears and easier to maneuver in traffic.. A case where less is more when it comes to the overall experience.
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow..
Being almost 60 now and having owned quite a few cars, mostly sport cars.. I have come to realize that its the whole package and balance that makes the experience an enjoyable one... not to say that more powerful cars aren't fun.. they are... There is just more to it than HP numbers..
It's not all about power.. It's about BALANCE and having USEABLE power for driving in the REAL world. A true sports car is about being light weight and nimble.. You need to drive it like a sports car to get power from it...
0-60 in 6.2 is respectable and totally useable..
I recently sold my 08 vette with 436 HP and all the torque one expects out of an American V8.. It was a blast ripping to 60 and being pushed back in the seat or lighting up the tires at will.. but in the real world.. its difficult to have fun in it because its too quick and u cant push it and enjoy its limits..
It's more fun to wind out the gears and easier to maneuver in traffic.. A case where less is more when it comes to the overall experience.
It's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow..
Being almost 60 now and having owned quite a few cars, mostly sport cars.. I have come to realize that its the whole package and balance that makes the experience an enjoyable one... not to say that more powerful cars aren't fun.. they are... There is just more to it than HP numbers..
Cars arent JUST about the wheels either, so if the FRS has 1" bicycle wheels, it would be okay right? Or would you want more?
The OP is making the point that there just isnt enough HP to validate a purchase by him, thats his opinion and many, many people share it. Weather or not you do, you should respect his opinion instead of arguing constantly with the same exact excuses that you and others keep making for this car. Lets all just play nice.
Now, back to loving cars
What excuses? I'd love for you to point them out. I think you (and your fellow trolls) should take your own advice and respect the opinion of those who think the car is sufficient.
Cars arent JUST about the wheels either, so if the FRS has 1" bicycle wheels, it would be okay right? Or would you want more?
The OP is making the point that there just isnt enough HP to validate a purchase by him, thats his opinion and many, many people share it. Weather or not you do, you should respect his opinion instead of arguing constantly with the same exact excuses that you and others keep making for this car. Lets all just play nice.
Now, back to loving cars
The OP is making the point that there just isnt enough HP to validate a purchase by him, thats his opinion and many, many people share it. Weather or not you do, you should respect his opinion instead of arguing constantly with the same exact excuses that you and others keep making for this car. Lets all just play nice.
Now, back to loving cars

Just saying that there is more to a sports car than HP .. I was just relating my experiences.. your the one claiming everyone is just making excuses for the car.. so their opinions don't count ? cause YOU don't agree with them.... LOL... worthless..
I wasn't disrespecting his opinion.. that's about as stupid as your bicycle wheel analogy..
Just saying that there is more to a sports car than HP .. I was just relating my experiences.. your the one claiming everyone is just making excuses for the car.. so their opinions don't count ? cause YOU don't agree with them.... LOL... worthless..
Just saying that there is more to a sports car than HP .. I was just relating my experiences.. your the one claiming everyone is just making excuses for the car.. so their opinions don't count ? cause YOU don't agree with them.... LOL... worthless..
My point exactly, you seem to enjoy arguing, and insulting others instead of respecting my opinion. Thats expected from 'tough' guys on the internet i suppose.
There's a difference in getting your opinion across, and making remarks for the sole purpose of stirring up trouble. If there was intelligent conversation going on in this thread from the beginning from both sides, that would be fine. Instead people like to interject their baseless opinions and try and pass them off as facts and then cry foul when someone says different and provides solid info to back it up.







