Honda S2000 vs BRZ drag race.

 

well that doesn't seem right seeing how the quarter mile for a stock first gen tc is rated at 15.6.
but i suppose a lot is down to how good the driver is at launching a car.

 

again a drag dosent show anything on how fun to drive the brz/frs will be. but it would be nice for it to beat atlest some cars lol

 

I must say, I am very happy with this video, it just goes to show how under powered the fr-s is and maybe just maybe they will understand that a 2.0l N/A motor in the fr-s/br-z is just not up to par as compared to some of the other 2.0 na cars on the market. I just don't see how 151tq/200hp in a 2700+ lb. car can equal fun, that is just my personal opinion.

The Tc has been tested at 15.7 or so with a pro driver, keep mind the fr-s has more power loss at the wheels due to being rwd. the Tc also has more tq.

 

i hope you all know the frs is about 157 rwhp and not the actual 200hp that its advertised. its all about whp

 

I agree with them thinking the engine is amazing putting out 100 hp per liter. The s2k puts out 240 hp with a 2.0 liter engine. Now thats impressive and they dont brag about it everyday lol.

 

Thing is, 100hp per liter isn't amazing anymore, Honda has been doing it sense the mid 90s, in the US market none the less.

 

Yea sorry thats what i meant. It came out wrong. I was saying that it isnt impressive and that 240 hp from the s2k 2.0 liter engine is. Not to mention the 9k redline.

 

Yeah, the civic del sol was putting out 100hp/liter back in the day. Same with the em1 civic SI.

 

 

I dunno..i Really dont give credit to this video...I see alot of reviews and about 3 videos of the brz/frs doing 400m runs and hitting about 14.3-14.7 secs...15.7 is horrible for whoever is driving that car... And this has got to be an automatic brz because if you look closey the brz at about 99-100k shifts into 3rd when the manual one only goes to 3rd about to 92k in 2nd gear

 

what a close race.....hahahahaahahah

 

And just FYI.....I've ran faster than 15.7 in a stock tC (1st gen). It's good for 15.4-15.5. So to say a 15.7 was done with a "pro" driver....is most likely just another magazine journalist test drive, to which they are not "pro" drivers.

If they didn't give the name of the driver....you can rest assure that it's not a "pro". Notice any test done with a real Pro driver, the Pro driver's name is given, because he has accolades associated with it. Magazine Journalist are not Pro Drivers. Magazine test done by Motor Trend, Car&Driver, Edmunds...etc, are again, not using some "pro" driver. Aside from that, they all have their own methods of reporting numbers so it's not even standardized/regulated to one stringent way of doing it.

Aside from that, it's pretty much a no brainer that an S2k would beat a FR-S/BRZ in a drag race. But both cars in the vid ran extremely slow. 15sec S2k...lol. Either crappy driver, or elevation is high in their geographic location.

 

I would consider someone who has drivin and tested many more cars than you or I could ever dream driving in our lifetime a professional but that's just me. I'm just saying dont get depressed when you take your brz to the track and run 15s because a 14.3 in a 2800lb 200 flywheel hp rwd car is extremely impressive and honestly I think variations are in that video as well. The only videos that mean anything are the side by side comparison with another car or the brz at a real qtr. Mile track with light trees and time screens which I have yet to see.

 

^ the video that rythmnsmoke had put it up had proof of the brz and frs doing 400m runs on the same day against a miata and both cars put up 14.3-14.7 sec runs...if u read c/d,motor trend, road and track, all drivers were able to achieve about 14.7-14.9 sec 1/4 runs...and not to mention this comparison is done with an auto brz...im no pro so i cant say i can hit those numbers but u cant put a manual vs auto, have one car launch and the other one not, and put regular joes to race the cars and say ok there we have it...i knew the s2000 would win, but im just saying i rather a better comparo than this!

 

I wouldn't when they only spend a good week with a car, and their test consist of at max 3-4 drag launches down the track before they move onto the next task of creating the article about it.

They don't spend some lengthy time with a vehicle and sit there trying to optimize every potential shift and gear change timing. They are auto journalist first, test drivers second. This is why when you see a normal person who has his/her car for X amount of years and been to the drag strip or track a slew of times....running faster...than what was reported by Magazine X. The other thing to keep in mind is that the stock tires on this car I would imagine, don't exactly add the best grip for a straight 0-400m run. Taking my 300+whp car and slap these tires on there and I'd probably run slower than the FR-S does...lol. Maybe not, but you get what I mean...it wouldn't even be close to what my 2600lb 300+whp should run.

No magazine publication is going to use a real drag strip, because the focus is "street" performance. The drag strip is not the street so...

And as Birchard stated, there are multiple sources with 14sec 1/4 mile runs, not just the one video I posted up again with actual pro drivers in it.

 

I would buy a used s2000 before a new FRS/BRZ any day. Like some have already said the FRS/BRZ is just too under powered for what you get.

 

^If an S2k works for you then for sure, it is a great buy. I've sat in my friends and it was like sitting in a straight jacket for me. No room, like a Miata. That, and I just can't do a convertible (not with my boy ridding shotgun anyway). So the comparison here is a 4 seater sports car with hard top against a 2 seater convertible.

 

Not sure what you mean by your 300whp car but If this thing had anymore grip it would probably bog coming off the line lol

 

My tC is 300+who and weighs 2600lbs. I was saying with these tires I probably would run the same times...lol. albeit with a ridiculous trap speed.

And no it wouldn't bog with stickier tires. You could throw drag radials on it and still not bog. That's if you know how to drive. I've done drag radials on stock HP tC and not bog.