Notices

Scion xB Unleashed in Chicago BODYKIT + WHEELS!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:02 PM
  #101  
evilBOXevil's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 616
From: Kitchen Stadium
Default

Here's the problem that I have with the market research:
You are essentially asking people who don't like the car to tell you what you can change to make them want one.
What these companies dont conceptualize is that they are asking people to look at a car, and then describe a different car altogother.
Now, if you have a vehicle (like the xB) that already sells very well- you should ask people who DO like the car, but are hesitant to buy one, what would make them buy this car. Don't ask some idiot who already wants a Ford Fusion, and thinks that the xB is some box of crap.
Scion is not going to pickup the rest of the market they missed with these cars...they're going to get a different market altogether (like the idiot who already wants a Ford fusion).

Scion is going to have to change their marketing altogether now...
Images of snowboards, urban environments, and import nights -will now be replaced with images of grocery bags, school soccer games, and PTO meetings.

Add a spare tire holder to the ___ end of the new xB, and it is indistinguishable from a RAV4 from behind-5axis or not.

I think the new xB is a great car, and it will sell.
But it's not the box-on-wheels that I love. I've had other cars that I've enjoyed owning, but no other car gives me the same feeling as my little box does. Over 3 years, and I still turn around and look at it with a smile sometimes. I think it's possibly the greatest little underpowered box on wheels ever! I seriously mourn the xB. .

..and it is odd that they dropped the name 'xA' for a car that looks almost the same, and kept 'xB' for a thing that looks totally different.

My xB is about to turn 4years old, and has 80k on it. I had already decided to keep it for at least 5 years. But knowing that it's paid off and the new xB was coming, I really started to ponder the thought. I had already seen it as what I believed was stock, and felt it was a little too vw-ish for me-but I decide to wait and see the 5axis body lines. Not a huge change for me from the stock one. (Turns out that the new'xB' that I saw was slightly different from the stock and 5axis models. Maybe something that got altered for production?).

No thanks, I'll keep my bB 'til it dies. ..and when it does, I may have to look elsewhere for another car that I can enjoy as much.
Hear that Nissan?? *cough*cube*cough*.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:09 PM
  #102  
evilBOXevil's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 616
From: Kitchen Stadium
Default

I hope the gas tank is bigger too.
It's bad enough that it'll cost more, and will be more expensive to drive. Hopefully people wont have to stop more often also.
...oh nevermind. Current xB drivers wont be the ones buying this minivan meets suv meets camry meets rav4's backside thing anyways.
I think alot of Honda minivan's, if they could speak, would say:
"Wannabes. Copy my front bumper, huh? Now you're ugly and useless compared to me. HA!".
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:24 PM
  #103  
1epoXyBox's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 701
From: L.A.,CA
Default

As a stock car, the new model is just not as distinguishable as the 1st gen. It needs that whole kit in order to turn heads. Everyone keeps saying they would buy it with that kit, but what about just stock. Like someone above said, most cars look good lowered with kit and wheels. Im afraid to ask the price the 5axis version.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:25 PM
  #104  
BrianGillen's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 76
Default

Nice
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:26 PM
  #105  
BrianGillen's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 76
Default

not going to buy it but still nice
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:32 PM
  #106  
mitchell's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Team ScioNRG
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 251
Default

Originally Posted by evilBOXevil
Here's the problem that I have with the market research:
You are essentially asking people who don't like the car to tell you what you can change to make them want one.
What these companies dont conceptualize is that they are asking people to look at a car, and then describe a different car altogother.
Now, if you have a vehicle (like the xB) that already sells very well- you should ask people who DO like the car, but are hesitant to buy one, what would make them buy this car. Don't ask some idiot who already wants a Ford Fusion, and thinks that the xB is some box of crap.
Scion is not going to pickup the rest of the market they missed with these cars...they're going to get a different market altogether (like the idiot who already wants a Ford fusion).

Scion is going to have to change their marketing altogether now...
Images of snowboards, urban environments, and import nights -will now be replaced with images of grocery bags, school soccer games, and PTO meetings.

Add a spare tire holder to the butt end of the new xB, and it is indistinguishable from a RAV4 from behind-5axis or not.

I think the new xB is a great car, and it will sell.
But it's not the box-on-wheels that I love. I've had other cars that I've enjoyed owning, but no other car gives me the same feeling as my little box does. Over 3 years, and I still turn around and look at it with a smile sometimes. I think it's possibly the greatest little underpowered box on wheels ever! I seriously mourn the xB. .

..and it is odd that they dropped the name 'xA' for a car that looks almost the same, and kept 'xB' for a thing that looks totally different.

My xB is about to turn 4years old, and has 80k on it. I had already decided to keep it for at least 5 years. But knowing that it's paid off and the new xB was coming, I really started to ponder the thought. I had already seen it as what I believed was stock, and felt it was a little too vw-ish for me-but I decide to wait and see the 5axis body lines. Not a huge change for me from the stock one. (Turns out that the new'xB' that I saw was slightly different from the stock and 5axis models. Maybe something that got altered for production?).

No thanks, I'll keep my bB 'til it dies. ..and when it does, I may have to look elsewhere for another car that I can enjoy as much.
Hear that Nissan?? *cough*cube*cough*.

Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:43 PM
  #107  
shorberg's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Scinergy
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,701
From: Springfield, MO
Default

i don't remember there being this much controversy about a cars looks since ... . oh yeah when the first xB launched!

people, it's all good. it was bound to change. did you really think scion would keep selling the same ol box on wheels? heck no! we're in it to stay changing, scion is revolutionary.

i love the new box. i love the old box. i just plain ol love scion! i love the xa, xb1, xd, xb2, tc. hell i love the t2b, the fuse, the dj car, that lime green tC, i love stock xb's and modded xA's.

you don't have to buy a new one. we'll still do car shows and recognize your car as well as the new one.

polarized styling = style that evokes emotion. not necessarily good or bad, but withdrawing a response. that is scions styling idea. i think they have done a good job accomplishing their goals.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:43 PM
  #108  
PhilP10's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 35
From: S. Florida / New York
Default

I really like this new xB. I may consider one if priced right. I want one in black with some nice bronze 18s and a pioneer navi... ideas are just streaming.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:49 PM
  #109  
biancoxb's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 734
Default

I cant wait to take a closer look at it when the 07 Car Show comes to the JacobJCenter here in New York. : )
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:52 PM
  #110  
apexjr's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 573
From: Portland, OR
Default

I think the outside of it is a nice step forward, but I never liked the boxy/econo look of the xB. I completely hate the interior however. The wheel is at a 'semi' level instead of a coupe level, the seats sit you upwards like a truck, and the dash is in the middle of the car again! WTF?

I love the Civic's edgy look outside, but there dash is horrible... you can't see the upper part at all because it is blocked by the wheel and your hand. How did that ever make it past basic testing? Same thing on the this box. The interior is where you'd live and it is terrible.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:55 PM
  #111  
PhilP10's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 35
From: S. Florida / New York
Default

Originally Posted by biancoxb
I cant wait to take a closer look at it when the 07 Car Show comes to the JacobJCenter here in New York. : )
Same here... we have to wait til like April though and the xB might be out by then.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:47 AM
  #112  
Subcompact Culture's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,974
From: Portland, OR
Default

It looks better with the kit and wheels, but it's still really ugly IMHO.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:55 AM
  #113  
jpjxa's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 180
Default

I like the new gen. xB. More power,room and comfort; yet still very much unique and incorporates Fuse styling into a very usable and versatile package. I agree with Shorberg that after 3 years change was necessary and desirable to keep Scion fresh and "revolutionary". I also love all Scions, old designs and new. I still love my xA as much as ever, and plan on keeping it for a long time, but my wife and I like the new xB enough to give it serious consideration to replace her car when it comes out later this year!
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:55 AM
  #114  
06SuperWhite_SoCal_tC's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,761
Default

I like the 5axis version, which means you could pretty much do the same to the "ugly" stock xB. I think it's just going to have to grow on a lot of people before they really accept it. Looks awesome to me.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:58 AM
  #115  
ScionSpouse's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 120
From: Cary, NC
Default My impressions

The folks that think it looks like a HHR? What are they smoking? I don't want any, that's for sure.

Just because it's a larger engine doesn't necessarily mean poorer fuel economy. It will have a different transmission too, which means that there are different gear ratios, and could also be a taller final drive ratio (with more power, you don't need a short final drive ratio to get moving)

I would welcome the extra width (I can't put my golf clubs into the 06 xB with the seats up) and extra room for luggage. The current xB has problems with luggage space and more than two people.

If my Maxima dies before we're ready to get a truck (different story), I'd consider the new xB.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 12:58 AM
  #116  
Bewitched's Avatar
Junior Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17
From: midatlantic
Default Sometimes Things Are Better Left Unchanged

I Guess All Good Things Must Come To A END. I'm Sure Glad I Purchased The 4.0 Instead Of Waiting For The New XB Scion WTF Were You Thinking Good Luck With Selling Them But Like PT Barnum Once Said A Sucker Is Born Every Second So I Can Smack You
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 01:03 AM
  #117  
TJ's Avatar
TJ
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 366
From: Reno, Nevada
Default

Hmmm still don't like the way the bottom of the window lines slope upward. If it sloped straight. It'd be a winner in my eyes.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 01:10 AM
  #118  
chadfo's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

SL Member
Team ScioNRG
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,337
Default

Originally Posted by shorberg
. did you really think scion would keep selling the same ol box on wheels?
It's been working for Range Rover, Jeep, and Mercedes for years.

I think new XB is pretty nice. I like my first one better though.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 01:16 AM
  #119  
JDMJim's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,152
Default

it totally looks like a shoe. ugh!! xD looks way better.
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 01:19 AM
  #120  
azepolyn's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 606
From: Tulsa, OK
Default

hey ... has toyota ever used Blackberry Crush Metallic or Hypnotic Teal Mica?
curious what those are going to look like ...



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:06 PM.