Scion xP? P for Pickup, That Is...
07-01-2007, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine
I think it's pretty cool, actually (as long as it's RWD and not an FWD product).
The entry-level truck segment is being ignored. Gone are the compact S-10, B2200, Toyota Pikcup, Nissan Hardbody, and Ranger. The Ranger is still around (not for much longer though), The Chevy Colorado is probably the next smallest, but it's still big.
This looks like it'd be more of a sports truck than a work vehicle, though.
The entry-level truck segment is being ignored. Gone are the compact S-10, B2200, Toyota Pikcup, Nissan Hardbody, and Ranger. The Ranger is still around (not for much longer though), The Chevy Colorado is probably the next smallest, but it's still big.
This looks like it'd be more of a sports truck than a work vehicle, though.
07-05-2007, 02:52 PM
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this is my opinion about this truck / xP...
Drop the Supra Engine / Lexus IS300 motor in it and call it a day ;)
Drop the Supra Engine / Lexus IS300 motor in it and call it a day ;)
07-05-2007, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hoss021
this is my opinion about this truck / xP...
Drop the Supra Engine / Lexus IS300 motor in it and call it a day ;)
Drop the Supra Engine / Lexus IS300 motor in it and call it a day ;)
The new Toyota GR series 3.5L motors out out just about the same amount of HP, NA, with fatter torque curve, better MPG, and less emissions. Even the puny 2.0L evo motors are leap years ahead in output per L.
07-05-2007, 08:01 PM
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What we all need to keep in mind is that the rendering that was done was commissioned by some random dot com owner with absolutely no ties (that I am aware of) to Scion, or Toyota Corporate. The articles I have read on it even stated that everything about the specifications were speculation. They guy probably heard the same rumors manu of us had that Scion was considering a minitruck platform.
I for one am all for it. I currently own two xBs and would either buy a third Scion in minitruck format, or trade in one of the current xBs if Scion were to release this.
If I had to guess at what it should be I would say uinibody construction with a wishbone rear suspension and MacPherson front suspension. If they want to keep it truly micro, they will limit it to either a two seater with buckets or a three seater with a bench, providing only a small cargo space behind the seats. Logic would state that they would go with a RWD platform, but there could be some cost savings with going FWD. (Please, please don't do that to us.)
As far as engines, I think they would stick with a 4 cylinder. Which they would choose at this point, I am not sure. They would need something fairly fuel efficient, but powerful enough with enough torque so that people that do occasionally haul or two small loads (many small businesses) would dismiss the vehicle all together.
And I personally don't care for the styling of the rendering. There are a lot of features I didn't care for at all. The direction Toyota has planned for Scion is yet to be seen. Their philosohpy for the company seems to be evolving with each new model. The only thing that seems to remain constant is their target demographic.
I for one am all for it. I currently own two xBs and would either buy a third Scion in minitruck format, or trade in one of the current xBs if Scion were to release this.
If I had to guess at what it should be I would say uinibody construction with a wishbone rear suspension and MacPherson front suspension. If they want to keep it truly micro, they will limit it to either a two seater with buckets or a three seater with a bench, providing only a small cargo space behind the seats. Logic would state that they would go with a RWD platform, but there could be some cost savings with going FWD. (Please, please don't do that to us.)
As far as engines, I think they would stick with a 4 cylinder. Which they would choose at this point, I am not sure. They would need something fairly fuel efficient, but powerful enough with enough torque so that people that do occasionally haul or two small loads (many small businesses) would dismiss the vehicle all together.
And I personally don't care for the styling of the rendering. There are a lot of features I didn't care for at all. The direction Toyota has planned for Scion is yet to be seen. Their philosohpy for the company seems to be evolving with each new model. The only thing that seems to remain constant is their target demographic.
07-06-2007, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by squidboy
shades of the Subaru Brat or Dodge Rampage. Or go back another generation to the El Camino and Ranchero - 2 seater cars with a bed in the back. This looks cooler than all of them - would definitely consider!
07-07-2007, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hoss021
this is my opinion about this truck / xP...
Drop the Supra Engine / Lexus IS300 motor in it and call it a day ;)
Drop the Supra Engine / Lexus IS300 motor in it and call it a day ;)
07-08-2007, 03:24 AM
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That motor is so outdated, I don't know why people still glorify it. It was a great motor 10 years ago...
The new Toyota GR series 3.5L motors out out just about the same amount of HP, NA, with fatter torque curve, better MPG, and less emissions. Even the puny 2.0L evo motors are leap years ahead in output per L.
The new Toyota GR series 3.5L motors out out just about the same amount of HP, NA, with fatter torque curve, better MPG, and less emissions. Even the puny 2.0L evo motors are leap years ahead in output per L.
As for the evo motor, the 4g63, it's been around since the first Evo back in 92...it's just...well, it's evolved. As far as I can recall it's still a cast iron block.
Sorry for being off topic!
07-11-2007, 04:10 PM
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Pos na, a mi en verdad no me gusta para nada Hatillo, solo me sorprendi d ver a alguien de Hatillo aqui. Eso es raro. JAJAJAJA.Back to topic: How old are the news of this xP?
