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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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46 lbs is a huge savings off the top of the car, the leverage it had over the suspension was several times that amount at least. It had negative impact on accel, braking and turning, especially when going quickly from left to right and back, etc.

The resulting improvement was far more than I can explain here, well beyond what I imagined it would be.

The stock roof weighed around 63lbs, I forget the exact number right now.

If the CF roof was installed the way it was done on the TRD cars the savings would be alot less. We spent a great deal of time coming up with and implementing an install method to be as lite yet secure as possible.

This is the second most important mod we have done, tires being the first and we have made dozens of mods and spent hundreds of hours on the car.

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MountScion1
I'm looking at viniati's site, I see no mention of anything about a cf roof ever being commercially produced. Which sucks cause after finding this thread I was hoping to find when they'd be for sale. Living where I do, I only get to use the sunroof X amount of days out of the year, and with all the highway driving I do, even in the summer its rarely open.....
Its on their mainpage, just mentioned briefly..
http://www.kaminari.com/homepage.htm
New Product for Scion tC Owners!

Carbon Fiber Replacement Roof $995.00 also available in Fiberglass Composite $595.00

designed for track use

call for details
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Its funny I talked to one of the reps there on my lunch break. I wanted to know if it came with any instructions or how to's. He said he only had one guy up in Oregon put it in and wasn't sure. I said oh, you mean Rick from Raamaudio? He said yeah, you're best bet is to get in touch with with him about how to install it. He basically said you bolted it down a special way and then used a bute (sp?) type adhesive, the kind used to seal down windshields. I then spoke with Mandy, and she said that even with the cf shortage they would only need about 11 business days to get one out the door, since someone order the only one they had in stock last week. In the meantime she has a fiberglass one that is black gel coated on top and has cf/kevlar on the bottom. I'm seriously considering going with that, though she couldn't give me the weight on the latter. Anyhow, I'm wondering if now is the time to do it before cf prices rise any higher the way oil keeps going up.

Now Rick, did you get rid of all the motors/mechanisms and what have you up on the roof when you replaced it? I'm wondering with the motor gone if there is more room up there to mount some guages.
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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if you get it (or even if you dont) you should come to one of the MA meets, i would love to see it in person!
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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MountScion1 try to find out more about the fiberglass roof - i really dont care at all what i use but i want this damn creaking noise out of my roof. I would like as much info as possible. If anybody knows what the fiberglass roof is like let me know. Also - i would assume it would be less $$ then the cf
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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Yeah its on their site Kaminiari's site.

BODY PARTS FOR RACE CARS-FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY-NOT STREET LEGAL

K060660 Fiberglass Roof $695.00

KO60660FC Carbon Fiber Roof $995.00 save about 46 lbs.

This replaces the factory 3 piece glass roof panels

Recommend Professional Installation and consult factory service manual.

So again, it was explained to me that the fiberglass roof, comes with a black gel coating on the top side and is kevlar/cf'ed on the bottom. Shipping to a residential address here in MA was about $165, and you're on the east coast so I'm sure it'd be similar.
The fiberglass one I was told could ship today, the cf one would take about two weeks or 11 business days, something like that. Anyhow.......from what Rick says you're going to need a lot of downtime to actually manage to put this in. So even if I got this ASAP, it'd be awhile before I could be without a car long enough to put this in.

Does anyone have one of the spec tc's? the one's that have a fixed glass roof? I wonder if they have the same problems?

so yeah hope that was a little more informative.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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Thats the thing - i wonder where I would go in NJ that could install such a product. By the few people that I have talked to - this is not going to be a two second thing. I hate my sunroof so much that I dont even open it anymore.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by raamaudio
46 lbs is a huge savings off the top of the car, the leverage it had over the suspension was several times that amount at least. It had negative impact on accel, braking and turning, especially when going quickly from left to right and back, etc.
46 lbs off the top of the car is great for handling, but if you're only interested in performance (like me) you could get the same results from removing your backseat, which is free compared to $600 or however much it costs.

I guess this is a good mod if you have alot of money to blow, don't like your sunroof and you want the car to handle better.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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except teh 46 lbs comes from the TOP of the car instead of the back.
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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the higher the weight reduction the better.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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Just for kicks here is a pic that Kaminari has on their site along with a the other cf roofs squalheart posted








No one knows for sure, but this probably had a cf hood.....
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:01 AM
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lol.
Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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If only they made cf replacements for each individual glass panel, and leave the roof functional. I do like to use my sunroof in warm summer nights, but never ever use during the day while the sun is beating down.
Old Aug 26, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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hmmmm...... thats actually not a bad idea......that'd actually be pretty badass....... a non glass sunroof, that saves a little weight.... thats definitely not common....hmmmm, pitch that to Kaminari.......
Old Aug 26, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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up - good idea. i deff dont need a back sun roof. Just something that will make the install of this easier would be a plus and/or something to get rid of that damn rattle.
Old Aug 27, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MountScion1
hmmmm...... thats actually not a bad idea......that'd actually be pretty badass....... a non glass sunroof, that saves a little weight.... thats definitely not common....hmmmm, pitch that to Kaminari.......
the cf roof i saw on a display tc at a show was fully-functional...they said it was kaminari.
Old Aug 27, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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maybe it was a custom piece they did, cause it doesn't appear to be on sale yet on their website- just the one piece replacement roof...... I hope they do sell it though, that'd be a nice combination
Old Aug 28, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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I posted this on the other thread about cf roofs.....but if Kaminari really wanted to capitalize they should pair the cf roof with a tC version of this cf headliner........f^cking tight...

Old Sep 7, 2006 | 04:13 AM
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does anyone here study this thread

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...303&highlight=

in the hope of one day taking it all apart to get rid of that damn rattle?
Old Sep 7, 2006 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xtonyC
Originally Posted by MountScion1
hmmmm...... thats actually not a bad idea......that'd actually be pretty badass....... a non glass sunroof, that saves a little weight.... thats definitely not common....hmmmm, pitch that to Kaminari.......
the cf roof i saw on a display tc at a show was fully-functional...they said it was kaminari.
unless it was the pro/celeb pace car with the full kaminari body kit.. it was probably the regular pro/celeb cars.... which are made out of fiberglass. the pace car only got kaminari's CF roof.

for those who haven't seen.. pictures are here:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...59375&start=75



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