Alright soo ive been searching for a few weeks now... And I really want to make my lights White/Blueish but im getting confused with Plug and Play, Projectors, and Ballists, and OEM and such. And the search tool isnt my friend today.

Well I was looking at these JLevi lights... and i dont really know the difference between the products.

Predator ThinLine Angel Eyes Scion TC
Scion tC Projector Headlights with Angel Eyes

So my guess is that the Scion tC Projector Headlights with Angel Eyes has the Predator ThinLine Angel Eyes Scion TC included into it.

Ive read a lot of controversy about OMG this might melt something or it wont fit or some crap lol. Would I just be able to give this to my local shop and say install it? '

Also I dont know if 6k or 8k is legal? I live in Florida.. My guess is that... Ive seen other cars with the those color lights but im not sure... Im guessing HIDS arent legal lol but id rather ask... I wanna go as White/Blueish i can go (Legally).

When I was searching I didn't get the information I was looking for. Hopefully I can get some good responses! Thanks in advance!

 

those projectors have led angel eyes, the thinline angel eyes are cathodes (MUCH brighter).

to install the first, you have to bake apart your headlights and glue them to the headlight sockets. i have these installed, pics in profile.

highest kelvin i would go is 6000K. after that it starts to look retarded blue and light output suffers (the farther away from 4300K you go, the less light output there is)

 

The ThinLines are just the angel eyes. As the page says you get 2 ballasts and 4 angel eyes. Plus all the hardware needed. To install the angel eyes you need to bake your headlights. Yes I said bake as in you put them in an oven and turn the heat up. 220 degrees for about 11 minutes usually does the trick. The reason why you do this is so you heat up the silicone seal so you can take the assembly apart.

The projector headlights are a full headlight assembly. Angel eyes and projectors included. Those are most likely cheap projectors though. They dont use Umnitza or ThinLine angel eyes. You probably shouldnt expect much out of that projector set up.

Another option is to buy HID kits. Thats usually a bulb and ballast. You can find bulbs ranging from the OEM 4300k, 4500k up to 6000k, 8000k, 10000k and up. Higher heat rating means the color changes from white to blue to purple but you also loose visibility. One of the problems with this is that all your doing is adding bulbs into a reflector housing. This can usually cause alot of glare and blind people.

The next and IMO the best option is an HID retrofit. This is what a number of people on this forum have done and its what im gonna do in the future. It takes time and isnt the most "noob" friendly thing to do if you wanna do it yourself. There is usually alot of modification involved. The basic parts you need for a retrofit are projectors with bulbs, bezel/shroud, ballasts. You can get projectors from just about any car with HID's but common projectors are from TSX, S2000, 3-Series and 5-Series. When you do an HID retrofit you can then add any sort of other things you want such as LEDs and Angel Eyes to your headlights. Be as creative as you want. This is the most expensive and time consuming method but it also insures the best quality. You have full control over which parts you put into your headlights.

Hope this helps straighten things out a bit. If I missed anything or my info is a bit off then by all means correct me if I am wrong.

 

So your saying that the
Scion tC Projector Headlights with Angel Eyes isnt a good choice? I dot really undestand this retrofit thing lol!

 

The "Predator ThinLine Angel Eyes Scion TC" are just the halos that you need to install in your headlights. They are not selling the headlights. If you go with this choice, you need to bake your headlights and install the halos and your headlights would look like the image showed.

"Scion tC Projector Headlights with Angel Eyes" are actual headlights for sale. These, you can bring them to the shop and have them swap out your stock headlights.

I personally, would not go with the second choice because the light ouput is very poor from what I've seen. If you decided to go with the first choice. I don't think that's the bodyshop's specialty. You can do them yourself. Read the tech section DIY. There is a tutorial showing you how to install those specific angel eyes. If you want to see what retrofit are look at my sig.

 

retrofitting is basically installing a set of oem(meaning stock) projectors from another vehicle and retro (custom) fitting them into your stock headlights
since you are not familiar with this, you should pay someone to do it
the pros of projectors is that they have the best light output and zero glare aka cutoff line
the cons is the extremely high price (i've seen 600-800 bucks)

plug n play consist of ballast (battery boost / metal block thing), bulb, and additional wires. very simple install, connects to battery, ground, and some sort of igniter for your exsisting headlight. very cost effective (150-500 bucks) and the longevity usually lasts anywhere from a few months-years and going
major problem with these are the glare, and lots of it
blinding oncoming traffic is never a good idea, in addition to that, all plug n play kits are illegal

angel eyes are "ok" i've seen them with a cutoff but the output is not so great
6000k is the most popular, its what i have and i love it

 

I don't think light output really matters much for angel eyes. They aren't meant to be used as headlights. They are more of a look sort of thing. People do like them as bright as possible because other people can see them better but thats really it.

But ya heres a summery of everything.

Predator ThinLines are just the Angel Eyes you would install yourself. Pretty easy to do, bake, pry, glue, etc. Great DIY in the tech section. Umnitza is another good company to get your angel eyes from.

Aftermarket projectors like the ones you show above. The kind you find on ebay and those "generic" car parts online stores I wouldn't trust. They are just cheap alternatives to everything. Im not saying all of them are like that, you might find decent aftermarket headlights but most of the time you will have problems with them. Most commonly the lens fogging up because of a poor seal.

HID kits are a popular way to get that HID look. IMO its half-assing HID. You get the bulbs but run em on a stock reflector housing but blind everyone on the road. You can find bulbs with ridiculous kelvin temps like 5-billion-K that give off the entire visible color spectrum, but you cant see s**t. Plug-N-Play and inexpensive, but in the end you get what you pay for.

The most expensive method is the best. Retrofitting a true HID projector. Basic parts are a projector with bulb, bezel/shroud, ballast. Ofcourse you might need to fab brackets to hold the projector in place, cut the back of your headlight assembly, and so on. Lots of work but you get the best results.

 

lol is there anyway to buy premade retrofits... im a bit nervous when it comes to that and I dont wanna mess anything up?

 

You can find people to do it. Im sure either someone here might be willing or HIDPlanet. If you wanna attempt it yourself you can buy a spare set of headlights from TRDSparks or some other place and work on those. This way you can take all the time you need to do things one at a time and still be able to drive your car.

 

4300k basically stock for maximas and bimmers 6k is light white blue 8k and 10 k is blue and 12 k and up r blue to purple the colors look sick but that doesnt mean there always bright bright the brightest HID's would be the 4300 or 6k i can get HID's for 100$ too if ur interested PM me

 

my suggestion. buy the 2008 tc projector headlights (from josh at trd sparks) then buy a 6k hid kit from any of these sponsored sellers from scionlife (check ppc sponsored sale section). then install the 2008 headlights and hid kit yourself. you CAN run hid's in your stock headlight housing but you will get pulled over due to glare. that's what the projectors are for. you're going to spend at least $500 if you do it the right way.

 

Is this what you are looking for?

 

I really don't think you can mess up your headlights to the point it will be unfunctional. Unless you melt your housing, just take things slow and the process of baking apart the headlight is quite easy. retro would be the best, not just reducing glare, you would be using all the benefits hid lighting.

 

You would have all the benefits because your using a real complete HID setup for its intended application.