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Waste of money without FI. All fast tC's have a S/C, T/C or Nitrous. People that want to build a fast "all-motor" tC are in for HUGE amounts of costs...that's why there are virtually no "all-motor" tC's.

 

Nah... I can get 300 from all motor...


juice isn't F/I... it's just a cooling agent... :D

 

It kind of is, due to how it adds oxygen into the engine when the engine isn't naturally sucking it in

How it works http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/n...ogy/index.html

Cooling agent + more oxygen

I guess I consider all motor to mean without adding amounts of oxygen over atmospheric levels, i.e. turbo, super, nitrous

 

It was a joke dude... I know quite a bit about nitrous.

It's just that noobs will argue that nitrous is all motor when it clearly isn't... same reason my car is "stock"... I havent done any work to the engine... no bolt ones... so it's "stock"... right? :D

 

double post (now I'm the noob)

 

gotcha. Can you tell that no amount of brain damage surprises me on this forum anymore?

There has been an incredible amount of noobosity recently on the forum. They've got me in defensive mode!!!I'm up against the wall and ready to fight!!!

 

Welcome to the life of a Scion owner...

I worked at a dealership in N. Texas, not to be mentioned... needless you say I got to see the majority of Scion owners without any defenses... We are a stupid breed.

Unfortunately most car groups are... that's why i consider myself an auto enthusiast and not to one specific car... I would then become a "fanboi" and be no better than RICERs and NOOBs...

 

Is 200 whp possible w/o FI?

 

Everything is possible. Depends how much money you want to invest. With bolt-ons, no, if thats what you were asking.

 

clutch flywheel rest of the exhaust,

dont leave the stock midpipe with resonators removed, get a real exhaust

 

I don't quite understand how upgrading your clutch improves power? I understand a lighter flywheel means you gain RPMs faster

Say I had $2k?

 

helps you put the power to the wheels, and plus the stock clutch wont hold to long if your bashing on it all the time, and if your gonna change the flywheel might as well change the clutch too

 

How much does a decent clutch run?

 

2k plus bolt ons can be possible I guess, you just have to find a good shop/tuner. I don't think there is a lot of interest in N/A so you may find your self in uncharted waters. What may cost for instance an RSX, 300zx, or even a civic in term of HP/$ would cost you a lot more.