Guess what turbo does? Gives you even more torque AND horsepower!

 

well, nothing is really worth it. even turbo give more HP, but it costs alot money.
so I/H/E/P, what is P stand for? pulley?

 

P i assume stands for pulley because i can't think of anything else P would stand for.

Okay so if you're pushing 161whp with I/H/E/P then how much does a stock tC have whp wise? like 140-150whp?

 

SR0529 didnt you say you had the same thing? i/h/e/p?

yes p stands for pullies lol.

and stlsciko a stock 5spd tc dyno's at 140-145 ish and a stock auto tc dyno's about 130-135.

 

figure thats only 15whp for all that money spent (mind you i didnt pay retail) 300$ for header, 250$ for pullies, 200-300$ for intake, 500$ for exhaust.

thats almost 1250$ if someone were to buy retail, again i didnt pay that much. i spent 80$ on brand new header, 50$ on intake and Aem filter, 100$ on greddy evo 2 exhaust & 140$ on NST pulley set. Even then i still overpaid for nothing

 

thanks for the info, so if you joined 30whp with the I/H/E/P setup,

how much HP do you gain, like a stock has 161hp. so how much would you be at, around 185hp?

 

ugh stock isnt 161 its what i said above, unless your talking about to the crank which doesnt mean anythng

and idk who is gaining 30whp from bolt ons. i jus told you i only gained <15whp with all bolt ons

 

FlintMica2005 I only have I/H/E not P yet lol I guess 160+ whp is the most for the bolt on. most 5speed stock dyno 138-140 whp. so is like 20 whp gain. how much HP you expect with few hundred dollars bolt on?

 

yeah most ive seen is 167 on ptunings dyno. 5 spd stock is 140-145. auto is 135-138ish. considering with a honda, bolt ons for those cars get great gains

and a few hudred is infact almost 1000$ dollars if bought at retail price.

 

this is all true but the I/H/E/P or no P its all setting you up for more. its increasing flow to and from the engine. the intake is getting more air in easier with less restriction, the header and exhaust do the same with air going out.

now you get more aggressive cams and higher compression pistons. if you have a cai pulleys either a torque damp or stiffer motor mounts, a header a 2.5" s pipe and custom midpipe with some exaust besides stock, add cams and 11:1 cr pistons your probably at least 250whp all motor, possibly more depending on your tune. keep in mind a turbo gets you around 270hp with a standard psi.

if you put the cams and pistons in without the i/h/e/p system your gains would not be nearly as much as your bottleneck would be intake and exhaust flow mainly.

the cams are an easy install the pistons not as easy but worth it. keep in mind youd need a tune. as far as pricing cams and pistons are both about $600 each.

 

Hey, I'm going to be doing an all motor tc. Im port the head and put 272 cams in. All less then $1000 thats with a new head

 

I think TCPete just did a 200 whp all motor build but I'm not sure of the extent that he went. It'll probably show up with a search but I'm lazy

 

he had 200whp all motor with 11:1 cr pistons, headers, stock s-pipe and stock midpipe and an axle back i think, stock cams but he had redone valvetrian and pnp head.

thats what i forgot to mention might want to fix up the head while your at it.

Brian crower sells stage 2 or 3 na cams and valvetrain parts or other companies for valves but i think bc is the only maker of the cams.
bc also makes a stroker kit that brings you to 2.61L and that would probably boost your power by a ton with everything installed. but thats a ton of money lol.

 

do cams give power by itself?

 

pete dyno'd at 205-210 with head work engine work and bolt ons just stock midpipe. and he was tuned

 

AND theres no real proven gains on BC cams.

 

what about pulley?

 

go to dezod.com. They have all the parts you could want. Don't forget to look at their 11:1 pistons. You can also get an AEM FIC and a tune.

I was in the same spot at you wanted an all motor tC.

I wasted a lot of money on an intake header spipe custom 2.25 midpipe and a trd Axel back.

I boosted 6 months later. I'll never go back. PERIOD.

But if u realy want an all motor tC go to dezod. Shoot em an email they are SUPER helpful.

 

regardless of what people say to this statement, a club in stl dynoed a stock tC, and then dynoed a tC with the crank pulley on, just the crank pulley and it gained roughly 7hp. now if ppl want to argue go ahead, i dont have a dyno chart, but i saw it.

 

I'll sell you an F/IC for 100 plus shipping! It'll work perfect for N/A tuning because the MAP sensor is broken. Everything else is perfect. Lemme know!