i dont have a scion yet but im probably gonna get one..i have heard people say that the clutch is harder to drive then other cars. whats so much harder about it?

 

its not harder at all. its actually smooth as hell. you gotta push it down a ways to find the spot, but it's way easier than my old 1994 honda accord.

 

its not that its harder the clutch is just not stiff...i have 800miles and every once and a while ill get a couple crappy shifts. im used to having cars with a peddle that actually requires force so its difficult to get used to but it drives smooth...it just takes time if you have been in cars that had a wee bit stiffer cluch..

 

this is my first manual transmission car, i learned on my bros isuzu, this car is easy and forgiving as hell to drive. i think most people complain that the throttle delay is annoying because of the drive by wire system, but they say that is cured by a lighter flywheel or a crank pully.

i just learned how to compensate for it and i drive smooth as butter in my opinion.

i think with most manual trannys there is somewhat of a learning curve because of different shift distances and clutch engagement points and so on. driving my dad's c5 corvette seems kinda like a chore with the stiff clutch and really high effort long travel shifter. the tc feels like a breeze and light as a feather to drive.

 

alright thanks...yeah well i just kinda learned to drive stick. so im not really used to anything.. so you would recomend getting manual? do you have that squeek like everyone is talkin about..n is it really that annoying if so

 

It takes a little getting used to, but it's easy. The pedal is light compaired to many other cars I've driven.

 

you mean the clutch pedal squeak? yeah, sometimes i do, sometimes i don't, doesn't bother me, that is what the radio is for!

depends on what your goals are, if you care about performance and potentially boosting your tc, then it is easier to upgrade a clutch to handle the power than an auto to do it. also you'll get more power to the wheels to begin with so it will be faster than autos.

but if you aren't into performance, and just want an easy rider, get an auto.

 

yea i just dont wanna get n auto n regret getting a manual n be bored driving it..so idk n im not looking for performence so much

 

i say get a manual because manuals force you to pay more attention to the road because you are actively engaged in controlling the car more than with an auto just shifting to d and pushing the pedals. kinda dull.

 

yea im also not good at multy tasking haha but that is a decision ill have to make..thanks for your help man

 

The clutch is VERY easy in my opinion. I have NEVER ONCE stalled my car in 2 years. The only PITA is the drive by wire throttle system. The reaction time is a bit delayed, but ya get used to it (well, sorta). The clutch catches very high though stock (at least for what I want).

 

whats the drive by wire system throttle?

 

usually when you push the gas pedal, it pulls on a cable that opens the throttle body to let air into the engine, then the throttle positioning sensor reads how much you have opened the throttle, and adds fuel in proportion to your throttle input.

a drive by wire system uses a computer to read how much throttle input you are giving by seeing how much you've pushed the pedal. this is supposed to allow the ecu to more precisely control the throttle opening and fuel proportioning. some of the drawbacks are a slight delay in the throttle response that i think is easy to compensate for, also, there is no such thing as wide open throttle (wot) because even with the pedal all the way to the floor, it won't open the throttle body beyond i think 80%, but i could be wrong on that one.

 

well put

 

first gear is really short but besides that no complaints.

 

It's harder than driving an automatic.
Anyone who thinks the tc's clutch is difficult is a SISSY.

 

^^ for real. i'll second that. by far the easiest clutch i've ever driven