i'm not claiming any superiority here, i was simply implying that i was knowledgeable of the subject at hand. i still believe cutting 2 inches off the shifter would benefit the driver more than foul your shifting. if you're worried about it, just buy a real short shifter. i see no reason not to experiment with it and buy another shifter if it doesn't work out.

 

^^^ maintaining a good attitude. i like that.

 

Bummer, I hate when developing stories with interesting endings stop without giving the ending....so umm did ya cut it or buy a new one?

 

I know everything.....about nothing. :D

 

Not to fuel anything, but actual shift distance along the arc would be shorter... but it's not really "simple geometry".

Just look at two circles, one larger than the other, both having the same origin. On the circle with the larger radius (read: the longer distance from the fulcrum) you have a longer arc length, hence more distance to travel.

But seeing as there are many other factors at play, this simple point is meaningless in an argument about whether or not to cut ones shifter down.

 

thread revival from 6 months ago. i don't think you're gonna get a answer.

 

cutting your stock shifter will work just the same as buying a shortened shifter. where do you think the companies that make short throw shifters take length off of? look at a comparison of the two:



stock is on the left, twm short throw on the right. everything is almost identical with the only exception being the length of the shifter from the pivot point to the **** threads. they can really only shorten the length from this area. if they shortened from the lower half the shifter cup would not actuate the shift linkage far enough to engage a gear. And it really is simple geometry. the closer you are to the pivot , or fulcrum, point the shorter the traveled distance becomes. and the same is true for the opposite, the further away you are from the pivot point, the greater the traveled distance becomes.

Here's a crude diagram to illustrate the point:



so for the issue of cutting your stock shifter in hopes of shortening the throw, it will work. but for a stiffer, more direct shift you will want to invest in upgraded shifter and cable bushings. if you cut the shifter and do not replace the bushings you will still have that soft, mushy feeling in your shifts.

Make sense?

 

Ha you all just got served! Oh no he didnt. Good job I AM Hollywood.

 

i wonder if anyone who originally posted this is even around anymore...

 

Doubt it SL is becoming the New "guess what I traded my TC for" site

 

that dp guy really has been "DP"ed lol. stupid. i cut mine 2 inches and it works much better than stock and looks and feels great. $200 for a short throw is the biggest waste of money and should be the absolute last mod done to your car after you won the lottery. any one else agree?

 

I agree. The only thing I would suggest buying is the upgraded bushing kit.

 

Stop _____ing, everyone.

Why don't you guys do an experiment if you can't prove it with math. Use straws..i don't know. I've done it, proved it with math and know the answer.

 

nerd.

 

damm i wanna do that to my camry then lol

 

Why dont you stop posting then since you know all the answers and never share any of them.

 

A stock shifter with 2" cut off of the top is NOT a short shifter. It is a shortened shifter. My shifter is 1/2" lower in height than the stock shifter-- but the throws are almost 60% shorter.

A short shifter moves more of the shaft below the pivot. My shifter, next to a TWM Stage 2:


The longest throw (1st to 2nd) with my shifter, measured from the top of the shiftknob, is 2 inches.

 

Yes the shaft from the pivot point up to the threaded area you attach the **** is shorter. BUT the area from the pivot point down to the piece that attaches to the shift linkage is LONGER. There is a difference between chopping a stock shifter and buying aftermarket.

 

i realize that

 

I haven't seen a side by side comparison like these pics, this proves what I thought was true. Where the after market shifters are getting the shorter throw from is a combination of shortening the top of the shaft plus lengthening the bottom of the shaft. By lengthening the bottom half of the shaft it takes less motion to engage a gear. You basically are just moving the pivot point further up the shaft.