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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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first of all.. the only reason why the HKS will sound like crap with a DC header is because of rasp. You will need to get a resonator no matter what to get that sound you like. I have a megan header, invidia s-pipe, tsudo midpipe with 2 18" magnaflow resonators and an HKS axleback.. it sounds smooth throughout the whole powerband. I've had this setup even when I was auto.. I converted to manual and it still sounds the same.
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sp0t
first of all.. the only reason why the HKS will sound like crap with a DC header is because of rasp. You will need to get a resonator no matter what to get that sound you like. I have a megan header, invidia s-pipe, tsudo midpipe with 2 18" magnaflow resonators and an HKS axleback.. it sounds smooth throughout the whole powerband. I've had this setup even when I was auto.. I converted to manual and it still sounds the same.
Do you have any clips? I was using DC of more of an example, but you liked your setup?
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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i think you are thinking an auto will sound different than a manual because....

say the two cars are at a light. the light turns green and both cars begin to move at THE SAME constant acceleration. however the manual can stay in 1st gear, but after a certain point, the auto will automatically shift. at the point the auto shifts, the manual's engine will still be screaming because it is at higher revs than the auto.


i think that is what the OP is trying to say that they might sound different. but like everyone said, given that both cars are at the same RPMs....they will sound the same. they sound like crap from the rasp of the header with no resonators.
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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I want to do DC Headers, and an HKS exhaust, but i've heard this is a no go for the auto tC.
Where did you hear this?

Pretty sure the autos & sticks have same redline. Both will sound the same at any given RPM's.
I have heard this from my dealer and other scion people
I wonder if your dealer is just ignorant ... (or maybe he was trying to talk you out of the HKS so he could sell you a TRD exhaust ... ??)

You're getting some good advice here. Only thing I would add is listen to an exhaust - preferably in person, or at least a clip - before you buy it.

This is a good place to start:

click for SL exhaust sound clips
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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Not to mention behold the power of YouTube.

I'm in the market for my exhaust and in terms of what I'm looking for I'm going to purchase a Tanabe Concept G Exhaust, so I went to YoutTube and got quite a bit of video/sound clips which was a great selling point.

Search, my friend...the answers are out there.
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:14 AM
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Okay, so i have found where to get the megan header, invidia s-pipe, and HKS axleback. But i cant find the tsudo midpipe with 2 18" magnaflow resonators...Any help?

Update - I found where to get the midpipe as well, so all i need is the magnaflow resonators.

Also, how will i set this up?

Headers
S or Midpipe?
Resonators?
Axleback
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Ok, so i have found the exhuast, i was going to go with megan headers, invidia s-pipe, tsudo midpipe, 2 18" magnaflow resonators, and an HKS Axleback.....Yeah.....Freaking expensive and confusing is what that is. So i decided upon this:

The TANABE Medallion Concept G Catback Exhaust

After several ScionLife topic starts, i have come to the conclusion that Manual/Automatic will not make that large of a difference.

The Features:

* Under 93db
* Highest SUS304 quality
* Straight form design - minimizing bends to provide best flow and useable power gains
* Extreme efficiency - finely tuned for maximum efficiency to extract the full power potential on all n/a and f/i vehicles
* Pipe/Tip (mm): 60/100
* AXLE-BACK EXHAUST

And its under $300

I came to this conclusion after listening to several video clips of it.
References:

Completely Stock tC with regards to exhaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw1o-...elated&search=

Completely Stock tC with regards to exhaust but it does have CAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoRoB...elated&search=

The question is: Do I want this? Will this make me ricer? Thoughts, Opinions?
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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The Tanabe Concept G sounds really good, when you don't combine it with a header. The rasp is amazingly loud, and it hits in low rpms and stays through the power band. I had this set up and just recently put my stock exhaust back on until I get enough money for midpipe, spipe, and either a high flow cat or a reasonator.

I think that when you have really bad rasp on an auto, it seems to be worse because of the fact that here is no break between shifts. It drowns continuously, which is why I switch back to my stock exhaust.

The fact is, unless you are willing to cut pipes and weld in resonators or cats, you won't have a good sounding exhaust when you have a cat-less header.
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteshirt
The Tanabe Concept G sounds really good, when you don't combine it with a header. The rasp is amazingly loud, and it hits in low rpms and stays through the power band. I had this set up and just recently put my stock exhaust back on until I get enough money for midpipe, spipe, and either a high flow cat or a reasonator.

I think that when you have really bad rasp on an auto, it seems to be worse because of the fact that here is no break between shifts. It drowns continuously, which is why I switch back to my stock exhaust.

The fact is, unless you are willing to cut pipes and weld in resonators or cats, you won't have a good sounding exhaust when you have a cat-less header.
I would only have bad rasp if I had aftermarket headers?
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Yeah. That's what would cause the rasp, and the only way to fix it is a resonator, a big highflow cat, or keeping the stock axle-back on.
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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But i plan on just putting the tanabe on
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Oh. Sorry. ha. In that case, You won't have any rasp with just an axle-back, and I really recommend the Tanabe. It has a good sound. The clips on youtube don't do it justice.
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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and it won't be a big deal being a auto
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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and it won't be a big deal being a auto?
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Not at all.
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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What about Rice factor?
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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bro, just relax. you're stressing yourself out man. it's not confusing at all.

in simple terms, you have a header that connects to the s-pipe, then to the midpipe, then to the axleback.

resonators are nothing but add-ons to your midpipe that you need to get welded on by a muffler shop. again, the purpose of resonators is to remove rasp and smoothen the exhaust note.

just having an axle back bolted on with having the same stock exhaust setup will just make your car go vroom opposed to the quiet and vague exhaust note the stock exhaust gives.

the only time your car will sound raspy is when you add a header. period. unless you have a leak somewhere in the exhaust system.

Instead of getting the tanabe concept g(being only an axleback).. why won't you get a catback exhaust? not only do you get the muffler itself, you also get a midpipe.

I started off with the Tsudo catback. it's $240 shipped now. I didn't like the muffler so I switched it out with HKS, but I kept the midpipe on.

It's up to you man, good luck.
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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Where did you get your resonators from?

What about the rice factor?
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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My advice is don't even get a header at all. I had the DC header on for about 3 months and couldn't stand the rasp so I went back to stock. For my auto I have the Borla exhaust and Secret Weapon intake. I absolutely love it!!
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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I'm so confused, isn't the tanabe g an exhaust? what is a full exhaust?



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