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Originally Posted by engifineer
Originally Posted by sciontcnoics
pepole who dont want to die shouldn't speed and buy a honda
but for those who do speed ,they know whats at stake !!!!!!!!EVERY THING!!!!!!!
but for those who do speed ,they know whats at stake !!!!!!!!EVERY THING!!!!!!!
Where is that vtec pic someone keeps posting?
And no, you dont "keep up" with that 350z, he isnt racing you.. sorry to bust your bubble.
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Re: govener
Originally Posted by Lucky4tC
I know everytime I drive fast I take the risk of getting injured, injuring someone else, and even my baby but it is my choice and im willing to take that risk
Grow up. You shouldnt even be driving 127, you sure as hell dont need to go faster. As far as your "other people would like to know how to do it too" comment. Yeah, probably so, but they want to do it for the track, not the highway where innocent civilians are driving half the speed you are.
Think before you post, and try to have a little common sense as well. If you want to drive "fast" with your nitrous (
) then keep it on the track where there are plenty or paramedics on hand to pick up your broken body after you crash. And also where they isn't any people just minding their own business, not trying to get killed on the way to work or the store. Some people DO have things to live for in this world. That person you kill could be my mother or father, or any other relative for that matter. I SURE AS HELL DIDNT GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO RISK THEIR LIVES! 
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kids like this are reasons why scion tc's are being changed over in insurance to high risk targets 
because they think their little scion is invisible and can go really fast
yes i do speed and i do street race sometimes and what not but theres a time and place for it all and not randomly on a freeway or something.
ever see a tire blowout at 120 miles an hour ...i dont think you have the training ot skills to stop yourself from death from that
enjoy you wont be living much longer
because they think their little scion is invisible and can go really fastyes i do speed and i do street race sometimes and what not but theres a time and place for it all and not randomly on a freeway or something.
ever see a tire blowout at 120 miles an hour ...i dont think you have the training ot skills to stop yourself from death from that
enjoy you wont be living much longer
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this is a comversation of how to take of teh governor
lets not take that and make it an arguement or a bashing thread.
people know the risk. and the warnings but nobody wants to listen to you so dont bother attacking people with your words.
and who knows, i might wanna take the governor off my car so i can go faster on the track.
i dont street race or speed and i know everyoen's concern but lets not make this a debate or arguement thread. make a different thread for taht
lets not take that and make it an arguement or a bashing thread.
people know the risk. and the warnings but nobody wants to listen to you so dont bother attacking people with your words.
and who knows, i might wanna take the governor off my car so i can go faster on the track.
i dont street race or speed and i know everyoen's concern but lets not make this a debate or arguement thread. make a different thread for taht
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It may be stupid to drive 120+ on the streets, but this thread was not intended to be a discussion of the possible moral ramifications of speeding, engine modifications or manslaughter. Nor is this particular forum a bully pulpit, from which to preach about dnagers to one's self or to others. There is a lounge for that, I do believe. Now I may not support the guy's desire to possibly speed over city streets like a bat out of hell, but if I had the technical knowledge I'd pass it on. I'm sure we can all agree that it is inherently dangerous to go 127 on ANY stretch of concrete or asphalt, but that also raises more questions, ie, if it's so dangerous to go that fast, why build cars that can go that fast at all? Why build a car that can travel faster than the speedlimit? Why not have better driver's ed programs to teach better driving habits? As you can see, this thread got off topic pretty fast. But my main point is this, and this applies to any thread on any bulletin board: If you have nothing substantive to add to the discussion, or have no correct technical knowledge to share, why speak at all? I'm pretty sure the old adage still holds true: If you have nothing nice to say, then keep your f*cking mouth shut!
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And to the original poster, I cannot help you, although you may find the search forum useful.
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And to the original poster, I cannot help you, although you may find the search forum useful.
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Some people on here are taking this talk of removing the speed limiter too lightly. Another forum I am a part of for my current car has completely banned any talk of removing the speed limiter on the cars and none of the regulars would tell you anyways.
Why?
I am sure the Admin of this site would hate to have a (many) lawsuits from parents of the kid who took it off and the family of the people killed by the kid. If any of them find out they got the information from this site then that would be enough to get slapped with a lawsuit.
And as they say on the other forum until it gets locked...
If you have your car upgraded to the point where you need to get rid of the limiter, you should be abe to figure it out for yourself by then.
Why?
I am sure the Admin of this site would hate to have a (many) lawsuits from parents of the kid who took it off and the family of the people killed by the kid. If any of them find out they got the information from this site then that would be enough to get slapped with a lawsuit.
And as they say on the other forum until it gets locked...
If you have your car upgraded to the point where you need to get rid of the limiter, you should be abe to figure it out for yourself by then.
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The rev limiter on a car is there to prevent over-reving, which will destroy the engine. Most gasoline cars designed for street use have a limiter somewhere around 6000-7000 RPM. Some sports cars have it set slightly higher to allow the engine to make more power in the high RPMs.
Simply removing the rev limiter, without making any other modifications to a car, will do next to nothing. In some cases, being able to rev the engine higher will yield slightly better performance, often at the cost of more engine wear.
You should only worry about raising the rev limiter once you've done substantial work to the engine. My personal advice would be to have at least the full exhaust upgraded (including the exhaust manifold and downpipe), a sport camshaft and some way to get more fuel to the engine.
The stock exhaust really restricts everything, so don't even think about removing the rev limiter if you're still running the stock exhaust. The stock camshaft is designed to make power in the stock rev range, so there really isn't any reason to raise the rev limiter if you still have the stock camshaft installed. About the only reason I see to raise it when you're still running with the stock camshaft would be so you don't accidentally hit it (when, driving competitively on the street, or in another similar situation). Once you install a sport camshaft you will want to raise the rev limiter so you can use the power the camshaft makes above 6000 RPM. You should also give the engine some more fuel and richen up the mixture a bit if running a sport camshaft, and if running in the high RPMs.
Unless you build an all-out race car, you will not be reving past 7000-8000 RPM. Any car that makes good power above 7000 makes little power below 4000-5000 RPM, and is not by any means a street car.
Simply removing the rev limiter, without making any other modifications to a car, will do next to nothing. In some cases, being able to rev the engine higher will yield slightly better performance, often at the cost of more engine wear.
You should only worry about raising the rev limiter once you've done substantial work to the engine. My personal advice would be to have at least the full exhaust upgraded (including the exhaust manifold and downpipe), a sport camshaft and some way to get more fuel to the engine.
The stock exhaust really restricts everything, so don't even think about removing the rev limiter if you're still running the stock exhaust. The stock camshaft is designed to make power in the stock rev range, so there really isn't any reason to raise the rev limiter if you still have the stock camshaft installed. About the only reason I see to raise it when you're still running with the stock camshaft would be so you don't accidentally hit it (when, driving competitively on the street, or in another similar situation). Once you install a sport camshaft you will want to raise the rev limiter so you can use the power the camshaft makes above 6000 RPM. You should also give the engine some more fuel and richen up the mixture a bit if running a sport camshaft, and if running in the high RPMs.
Unless you build an all-out race car, you will not be reving past 7000-8000 RPM. Any car that makes good power above 7000 makes little power below 4000-5000 RPM, and is not by any means a street car.
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I would like to take a moment to give props to AROQ for post that actually has something to do with the topic.
And Shogun I don' t think the Admin's have too much to worry as far as lawsuits. I'm no lawyer nor do I claim to be. But I have heard that the craiglist is going through a similar(by a stretch) lawsuit about illegal activities being advertised on it's web site but because they are not realistly able to sort through every single post on there they have a way of avoiding having liability for everything that is said on there.
Back to the Topic... The other thing you may want to consider is whether or not you've ever had much problems with mishifting, especially if you have a short shifter installed. Raising the rev limiter may give way to more headaches down the road. I say keep it unless you are ready (financially and emotionally) to replace you engine with out of pocket money.
And Shogun I don' t think the Admin's have too much to worry as far as lawsuits. I'm no lawyer nor do I claim to be. But I have heard that the craiglist is going through a similar(by a stretch) lawsuit about illegal activities being advertised on it's web site but because they are not realistly able to sort through every single post on there they have a way of avoiding having liability for everything that is said on there.
Back to the Topic... The other thing you may want to consider is whether or not you've ever had much problems with mishifting, especially if you have a short shifter installed. Raising the rev limiter may give way to more headaches down the road. I say keep it unless you are ready (financially and emotionally) to replace you engine with out of pocket money.
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well i dunno how different the GOVERNOR and REV LIMITER are
but i do know they peak out at different RPM's
REV LIMITER stops at 6.4rpm
but the GOVERNOR is at 5.9rpm
that lats .5rpm in 5th gear means about maxing at 127 mph to maybe 135 or maybe 140, i dunno
he jus wants to remove teh governor for top speed limitation.
but i do know they peak out at different RPM's
REV LIMITER stops at 6.4rpm
but the GOVERNOR is at 5.9rpm
that lats .5rpm in 5th gear means about maxing at 127 mph to maybe 135 or maybe 140, i dunno
he jus wants to remove teh governor for top speed limitation.
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Originally Posted by PghtC
and even my baby
This post should be locked.
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Originally Posted by AROQ
The rev limiter on a car is there to prevent over-reving, which will destroy the engine. Most gasoline cars designed for street use have a limiter somewhere around 6000-7000 RPM. Some sports cars have it set slightly higher to allow the engine to make more power in the high RPMs.
Simply removing the rev limiter, without making any other modifications to a car, will do next to nothing. In some cases, being able to rev the engine higher will yield slightly better performance, often at the cost of more engine wear.
You should only worry about raising the rev limiter once you've done substantial work to the engine. My personal advice would be to have at least the full exhaust upgraded (including the exhaust manifold and downpipe), a sport camshaft and some way to get more fuel to the engine.
The stock exhaust really restricts everything, so don't even think about removing the rev limiter if you're still running the stock exhaust. The stock camshaft is designed to make power in the stock rev range, so there really isn't any reason to raise the rev limiter if you still have the stock camshaft installed. About the only reason I see to raise it when you're still running with the stock camshaft would be so you don't accidentally hit it (when, driving competitively on the street, or in another similar situation). Once you install a sport camshaft you will want to raise the rev limiter so you can use the power the camshaft makes above 6000 RPM. You should also give the engine some more fuel and richen up the mixture a bit if running a sport camshaft, and if running in the high RPMs.
Unless you build an all-out race car, you will not be reving past 7000-8000 RPM. Any car that makes good power above 7000 makes little power below 4000-5000 RPM, and is not by any means a street car.
Simply removing the rev limiter, without making any other modifications to a car, will do next to nothing. In some cases, being able to rev the engine higher will yield slightly better performance, often at the cost of more engine wear.
You should only worry about raising the rev limiter once you've done substantial work to the engine. My personal advice would be to have at least the full exhaust upgraded (including the exhaust manifold and downpipe), a sport camshaft and some way to get more fuel to the engine.
The stock exhaust really restricts everything, so don't even think about removing the rev limiter if you're still running the stock exhaust. The stock camshaft is designed to make power in the stock rev range, so there really isn't any reason to raise the rev limiter if you still have the stock camshaft installed. About the only reason I see to raise it when you're still running with the stock camshaft would be so you don't accidentally hit it (when, driving competitively on the street, or in another similar situation). Once you install a sport camshaft you will want to raise the rev limiter so you can use the power the camshaft makes above 6000 RPM. You should also give the engine some more fuel and richen up the mixture a bit if running a sport camshaft, and if running in the high RPMs.
Unless you build an all-out race car, you will not be reving past 7000-8000 RPM. Any car that makes good power above 7000 makes little power below 4000-5000 RPM, and is not by any means a street car.