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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Hmm, for the pedal sensor, you would also want to do a sweep test to measure its resistance. Preferably with an analog meter, which makes it easier to see glitches in the sweep as you move the pedal. Not sure if that is the type of test you did from your description. But if so and all else tests good, and you have the PCM fault code, you may indeed have a bad ECU. If I recall correctly, you cannot remove either the rom or flash units from the board on our ECU's. If you can, you could attempt to pull them and plug them back in. On some older vehicles with removable EPROM's this would fix some issues, but like I said, I dont believe any of the memory is socketed in the newer ones. I havent had one of the ECU's apart in quite some time.
Old Sep 21, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by touringcoupe06
it cuts out at certain rpm whether i'm at wot or just cruising, but its never a specific rpm, and sometimes when I come to a stop it will hunt for idle, it will drop down below 200 rpm, then ramp up to 1500, but all the symptoms are so sporadic that I can never duplicate them. I've tried hooking up toyota's scan tool and shaking/wiggling all the wiring just in case its a loose connection but I never get it to do it, it also doesn't matter when it comes to engine temp, it's done when it's cold as well as when it's at full operating temperature and anywhere in between. I've run out of all other possibilities. The code for the mil light is P0606 which is described as a "PCM Processor Fault".
What exact mods do you have and what type of air filter do you have? I got the same fault code when I tried to use an O2 Simulator.
Old Sep 21, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Hmm, for the pedal sensor, you would also want to do a sweep test to measure its resistance. Preferably with an analog meter, which makes it easier to see glitches in the sweep as you move the pedal. Not sure if that is the type of test you did from your description. But if so and all else tests good, and you have the PCM fault code, you may indeed have a bad ECU. If I recall correctly, you cannot remove either the rom or flash units from the board on our ECU's. If you can, you could attempt to pull them and plug them back in. On some older vehicles with removable EPROM's this would fix some issues, but like I said, I dont believe any of the memory is socketed in the newer ones. I havent had one of the ECU's apart in quite some time.
for the sweep on the pedal sensor I used a digital oscilloscope and it was fine. and I am pretty sure that you can't unplug anything on the inside of these newer ecm's
Old Sep 21, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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it cuts out at certain rpm whether i'm at wot or just cruising, but its never a specific rpm, and sometimes when I come to a stop it will hunt for idle, it will drop down below 200 rpm, then ramp up to 1500, but all the symptoms are so sporadic that I can never duplicate them. I've tried hooking up toyota's scan tool and shaking/wiggling all the wiring just in case its a loose connection but I never get it to do it, it also doesn't matter when it comes to engine temp, it's done when it's cold as well as when it's at full operating temperature and anywhere in between. I've run out of all other possibilities. The code for the mil light is P0606 which is described as a "PCM Processor Fault".
What exact mods do you have and what type of air filter do you have? I got the same fault code when I tried to use an O2 Simulator.
all I have is an intake and cat-back exhaust
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by touringcoupe06
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it cuts out at certain rpm whether i'm at wot or just cruising, but its never a specific rpm, and sometimes when I come to a stop it will hunt for idle, it will drop down below 200 rpm, then ramp up to 1500, but all the symptoms are so sporadic that I can never duplicate them. I've tried hooking up toyota's scan tool and shaking/wiggling all the wiring just in case its a loose connection but I never get it to do it, it also doesn't matter when it comes to engine temp, it's done when it's cold as well as when it's at full operating temperature and anywhere in between. I've run out of all other possibilities. The code for the mil light is P0606 which is described as a "PCM Processor Fault".
What exact mods do you have and what type of air filter do you have? I got the same fault code when I tried to use an O2 Simulator.
all I have is an intake and cat-back exhaust
Did you ever do anything (remove, replace, or etc) the secondary O2 sensor? When I used the O2 Sim and hooked up it I received the same processor fault code. Check the sensor, wiring making sure its not damaged, what type of air filter is on your intake? If its a K&N or Oil-Type then clean your MAF sensor with some MAF cleaner remove NEG battery cable for 10 minutes and reconnect, start your car leaving everything off and let idle 10 minutes and see what happens.
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I've never done anythin with the secondary O2 but i looked at it with the scan tool and it was pretty much flat voltage like it's supposed to be and I've also already cleaned the MAF.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by touringcoupe06
I've never done anythin with the secondary O2 but i looked at it with the scan tool and it was pretty much flat voltage like it's supposed to be and I've also already cleaned the MAF.
What are the voltage readings in the sensor, it should fluctuate quite a bit.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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the secondary O2 should not fluctuate very much at all thats how the catalyst effeciency monitor works. It tests to see if the cat is working by looking at the switching of the front O2 and then at the rear and if the second O2 is switching like the first then the cat is not doing it's job.
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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The ECU has parameters built in for the O2 sensor and if the sensor isn't within these parameters it sets the CEL. I experimented a lot with antifoulers and looking at the voltage with my scan tool. The sensor still fluctuates with the cat working properly but it brings the voltage down rapidly once it goes up.
Old May 16, 2023 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
Did you see if there were any DTC's in the ECM? If the scan tool communicates with the ECM I still find it hard to believe it's the ECM. Did you check every fuse, replay, and even look at the theft system to make sure something didn't mess up on it? I would hate to see someone spend money for an ECM and it turned out to be something else. Once the ECM has been programmed to the VIN it can't be changed.

how so? there are used ecm's for sale u telling me with techstream i cant change the vin?
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