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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:01 AM
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Just recieved my clutch line from ingalls. I ordered it with my stiffy, but it took a while longer to get to me. Has anyone else purchased this part and intalled it? It looks easy enough, just checking the forum.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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not yet but soon
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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only 25 buck right? If it works thats a good price for a clutch mod. Let us know...
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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Yeah 25 bucks, figured it was worth a shot. I'll install this weekend.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:22 AM
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Watching, I would like to know how good this works too.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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I have one installed on the civic..

Definately increased clutch response and engagment..plus it gives a good "clutch pedal feel" considering I need to get a new clutch already because of the s/c..
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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watching....keep us updated!
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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oh yeah I forgot to mention..easy install..pain in the bootie to "bleed" the clutch system..

also I recommend replacing your clutch fluid with Royal Purple or Redline fluids.. they do not degrade like the o.e. stuff at high temps...

I ruined a pair of new nike dunks doing this messy install..go to someone that has a bleeder and old shoes hehe....
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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who sells this?
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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So the main purpose of this mod is to give the clutch pedal a more firm feel?

Definately worth the money if it works.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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is there a conversion kit to get this on an autmoatic? how much would that cost?

kidding .. kidding ..
and you ordered your new line with a stiffy... thats just. .. dirty ...
kidding again! oh geez .. I'm full of the not-so funny today

I'm guessing this is straigth from Ingalls? I havent heard clutch line upgrades. I'll have to dig around, I'm all about firming up the clutch, feels entirely too loose
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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What would the effects be on upgraded clutches? As you know, some after market clutches will make the clutch stiff too.
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DouBLeJ16
So the main purpose of this mod is to give the clutch pedal a more firm feel?

Definately worth the money if it works.
the pedal feel is a residual effect..what is happening it has more "presure" in the system and engages the clutch more efficently..also these are steel braided which is a safety enhancement..if a rock hits a steel braided line vs. an oe rubber line it is less likely to cut or worse dimple the line that will later cause a leak..more of an issue for breaklines etc..also our lines are wrapped in silicon under the steel braid so dimpling from a rock causing a leak is not an issue..

we also offer D.O.T approved breaklines for the tc with our d.o.t approvedclutchlines..
MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE D.O.T approved!


ZPI carries them
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
What would the effects be on upgraded clutches? As you know, some after market clutches will make the clutch stiff too.
definately true.. but the "pedal feel" in an after market clutch is due to the kind of presure plate and how it engages i.e. 2,4,6 puck or kevlar reinforced
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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unless you have a defective hose.. brake or otherwise.. i doubt you will feel any difference... especially "street use"... i have had ss brake line on other cars.. and if im honest with myself.. i can say that there was no difference what so ever in pedal feel... now.. notice i did qualify that with saying "street use"....

the theory is that the rubber hoses flex(expand) under pressure, hense taking longer for full pressure to reach the caliper or clutch cylinder.. if you have ever cut open a factory brake hose.. you will realize that unless it was either defective or just crap.. it would take ALOT of pressure to make that hose expand.. (im sure this would apply tot he clutch hose aswell)....

NOW on safety... here is where i would never disagree with anyone.. running SS line gives a very large margin of safety... especially for brakes.... nothing makes you realize that you can never have a large enough margin of safety than when you do track events... whether you have better pedal feel or not... safety should be the primary reason for useing SS lines...

on bleeding and fluids.... yes... bleeding is alittle tricky... i used a one man bleeder (vacuum pump with a catch can)..

on fluid.. our cars share the fluid between the brakes and clutch.. when i flushed mine.. i used the valvoline synthetic brake fluid... it has the higher dry and wet boiling points of any off the shelf fluid i could find... i considered going to a full race brake fluid but since i do not track this car (at least not yet) the extra cash i saved helps...
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Originally Posted by azepolyn
is there a conversion kit to get this on an autmoatic? how much would that cost?

kidding .. kidding ..
and you ordered your new line with a stiffy... thats just. .. dirty ...
kidding again! oh geez .. I'm full of the not-so funny today

I thought you were serious for a second...haha good one
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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bump to the bump
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Sorry guys, I didn't get a chance this past weekend to install it.
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by donahuek2000
Sorry guys, I didn't get a chance this past weekend to install it.
shoot some pics of how to instll and bleed it.. I am sure everone would love to know!
Old Apr 25, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Okay I will. All I got from Ingalls was the clutch line, so I'm sure it will help others out.

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