Intercooling N/A tC
Originally Posted by jmiller20874
Having too big of an intercooler will kill most of the benefits of your turbo. Sure the air will be cooler but if it's too big, the air will lose velocity and you'll lose HP. But if the intercooler is too small then it wouldn't be efficient enough to cool the charge, it's not really about restriction but cooling efficiency. With exhausts bigger is NOT always better, same principle applies. If the pipe is too big you'll lose velocity and you'll lose power. Why do you think people don't just stick 3" exhausts on 4-bangers?
In a N/A setup, your car creates a vacuum to pull air into the intake, by making the pipe too long or complicated, the vacuum does work as well. Try this, use a 8" straw to drink from a glass, works good huh? Now try a 4' straw to drink from the same glass, not so easy is it?
In a N/A setup, your car creates a vacuum to pull air into the intake, by making the pipe too long or complicated, the vacuum does work as well. Try this, use a 8" straw to drink from a glass, works good huh? Now try a 4' straw to drink from the same glass, not so easy is it?
As far as intercooling an N/A motor - a total waste of time. An intercooler's purpose is to bring the air passing through the inside as close to ambient temperature as possible. Unless you have some type of cooling agent like water, n2o, alcohol spraying on the intercooler - it's only going to be able to cool the air to ambient temperature. You might as well just put a cold air intake and be done with it.
Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
Originally Posted by jmiller20874
100 Degrees Celsius? You do realize that is the boiling point of water right? I damn straight wouldn't want air to enter my throttle body at that temperature.
Originally Posted by I
may be able to keep temperatures down to at the very very most, 100 degrees celsius.
BTW, I would congratulate anyone that can find 212 degree temperature and race in it. I'd also send him or her a glass of water.
Originally Posted by aarontrini85
that and the .5 hp incres the water and ice would give us would be canceled out by the restrictivenes and added weight

That is a straight through water-air intercooler. There is no added restriction.
And please don't think that I actually think intercooling an NA setup is a good idea. It's a waste.
Check Dr. Isotope's GFI intake.
Originally Posted by scion-tific
Not necessarily. It all depends on the internal desity of the core. If you're running an extruded tube then most likely you wont even notice the difference. The job of an intercooler is to exchange heat out of the air passing through the inside of it. The longer that air is exposed to the cooling fin, the more heat will be extracted. More density = more cooling. Unfortunately the more dense the intercooler is, the slower the air moves through it when the duty cycle is higher. The way to counter this is to add more tubes so the individual duty cycle of each tube is lowered. Intercooling is a science that a lot of people don't really pay attention to. It all depends on what you want to do.
As far as intercooling an N/A motor - a total waste of time. An intercooler's purpose is to bring the air passing through the inside as close to ambient temperature as possible. Unless you have some type of cooling agent like water, n2o, alcohol spraying on the intercooler - it's only going to be able to cool the air to ambient temperature. You might as well just put a cold air intake and be done with it.
As far as intercooling an N/A motor - a total waste of time. An intercooler's purpose is to bring the air passing through the inside as close to ambient temperature as possible. Unless you have some type of cooling agent like water, n2o, alcohol spraying on the intercooler - it's only going to be able to cool the air to ambient temperature. You might as well just put a cold air intake and be done with it.

Originally Posted by WeDriveScions
I didn't go that direction... already have a guage on my dash... I'm going fuel pressure/ Nitrous pressure / and Wideband O2 in my a pillar.
Originally Posted by Kenshin
Originally Posted by WeDriveScions
I didn't go that direction... already have a guage on my dash... I'm going fuel pressure/ Nitrous pressure / and Wideband O2 in my a pillar.
Originally Posted by jmiller20874
Ok we may or may not be on the same page here. Boiling water does have a constant temperature yes BUT only if the steam has some where to go. In a pressurized system it is possible to heat water past the point of boiling without it turning to steam. Ok maybe this is getting a little deep here, I thoroughly understand the purpose of a water-to-air intercooler in the case of turbo charging but um, hmmm, ok I think the initial mention of using water at 100 degrees Celsius to cool an intake charge just totally screwed me up. 
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