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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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what do you mean by an aftermarket warranty..?

what would that cover.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CityWingz
what do you mean by an aftermarket warranty..?

what would that cover.
Warranty from another company outside of the dealer. As in extended warranty.....depends on what type you get, could be bumper to bumper like the factory warranty, could only cover "big ticket" items such as the engine, transmission, etc., could cover wear and tear...depends.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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I always thought an extended warranty was only from the dealership and had the same guidelines as the factory.

i suppose your talking about like you buy a turbo from a company and theyll cover anything that go wrong with it? or most that goes awry lol
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oh ok. thanks for the info.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CityWingz
I always thought an extended warranty was only from the dealership and had the same guidelines as the factory.

i suppose your talking about like you buy a turbo from a company and theyll cover anything that go wrong with it? or most that goes awry lol
LOL nope, you can always get an extended warranty from other places than where you buy the item, the same is true for a car.

Buying an extended warranty at the dealership you are generally overpaying and the term will be much shorter than outside company.
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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boost it y0
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CityWingz
turbo it is?
How are you going to pass a smog check? There aren't any CARB approved turbo kits for the tC. Any time a cop stops you they can check under hood, and a turbo is really easy for them to spot. Just something to consider...
Old Jul 13, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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There is no way you can get 220whp with out voiding your warranty...

If you go S/C u wont get close to 220.

Unless u put on a pulley, Engine management, And Ect..Which all of those will void your warranty. and cost you alot more money than a turbo...since the S/C's are known to break down and cause more problems.

Id say save your money until your warranty is up and go turbo.

Get smogged, then put the turbo on right after, then u will have a while before u hafta get smogged again...

I live in cali also and i haven't gotten stopped by a cop yet...

Just dont drive like an idiot...

and if u do want to then wait till the late hours of the night where cops dont lurk around =D.
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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lol yeah im looking for turbo kits right now, dezod is looking pretty good.

i know where i can get my smog to pass lol just calls for a 24 pack ;)
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:18 AM
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go with the dezod kit...

their kit is awesome and so are the people.

what ever u do... DON'T go with turbo toyotas...or you will never get your kit. lol
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:22 AM
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lol yeah ive heard about that i was reading a post about 618 days or something like that i was like wtf??
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That was due to a special set of circumstances. Todd is a good guy and he doesn't have a entire team so each kit gets his attention. I have a Dezod kit, well kinda, but I do know TT Todd is a good guy and he won't take your order if he can't have it made and shipped out to you within 3 to 5 weeks from the time you order it.
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okay, to the OP, you're not going to get 220 whp without voiding your warranty. point blank. it is impossible.

with a supercharger, you can get 190 whp, and keep your warranty, but it has to be a brand new supercharger installed by a toyota dealership.

as for choices, you're in california, so your only choices for forced induction are...trd supercharger, which is CARB approved. and then i think the world racing turbo kit is CARB and dezod is trying to get CARB approval for their kit, but i haven't been keeping up on that.

so save up and buy a new supercharger if you can find one. or wait for the warranty to expire and get a turbo. nitrous is a waste IMO.
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 04:27 AM
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dude... you MOST CERTAINLY can get over 200 whp with nitrous if you have other upgrades like IHEP with that...

and the one guy is right, it boosts your torque even more so than your nitrous... but nitrous shots sometimes actually increase your hp more than the shot says.. your torque is genuinely even more...

and i dont know what ecko is talkin about $40 bucks a fill...

i JUST had my 10 pound tank filled today it was $26.50 exactly for my fill up....
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actually ya my fault... when i posted my numbers for the 65 shot i was including bolt ons... my fault...

here is a dyno result of a 75 shot on a bone stock tc... before and after results...

http://www.nitrousforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361

he reached a lil over 200 whp with a 75 shot with NO additional addons... btw... check how high his torque is ... 258 torqe... WOW...

now add bolt ons to that and you can get to the 215 to 220 range... also not mentioned is the kind of kit he has, and where its injecting... depending on those factors... you could even see a bit more power
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Originally Posted by ecko04
That was due to a special set of circumstances. Todd is a good guy and he doesn't have a entire team so each kit gets his attention. I have a Dezod kit, well kinda, but I do know TT Todd is a good guy and he won't take your order if he can't have it made and shipped out to you within 3 to 5 weeks from the time you order it.
Im not saying he's a bad person or anything like that lol..

Im just saying his business "priority's" Dont seem to be set straight thats all.

its not just the whole 2 year waiting ordeal for the TC guy.

hence this post also

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=257117 ...

but yeah back on topic!

id say forced induction for sure !
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Originally Posted by krazyjvilled
dude... you MOST CERTAINLY can get over 200 whp with nitrous if you have other upgrades like IHEP with that...

and the one guy is right, it boosts your torque even more so than your nitrous... but nitrous shots sometimes actually increase your hp more than the shot says.. your torque is genuinely even more...

and i dont know what ecko is talkin about $40 bucks a fill...

i JUST had my 10 pound tank filled today it was $26.50 exactly for my fill up....
Most places charge at least $3.50/lb so check your facts.

Not to mention your argument is this guys made 200whp on a bone stock tC with a 75 shot, do you know what that is on a real dyno, Mustang Dyno (~170), Dyno Dynamics (~180).

You cannot add a load to a Dynojet!!
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Originally Posted by krazyjvilled
actually ya my fault... when i posted my numbers for the 65 shot i was including bolt ons... my fault...

here is a dyno result of a 75 shot on a bone stock tc... before and after results...

http://www.nitrousforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361

he reached a lil over 200 whp with a 75 shot with NO additional addons... btw... check how high his torque is ... 258 torqe... WOW...

now add bolt ons to that and you can get to the 215 to 220 range... also not mentioned is the kind of kit he has, and where its injecting... depending on those factors... you could even see a bit more power
You are once again completely WRONG!!

His numbers are on a DYNOJET which do not have the ability to have a load added to it, they are just some inflate your ego dyno's and are not representative of real world numbers. I told you this in a message about how your complete disregard for the type of dyno is going to lead you to think you have a car capable of having xxx amount of whp when in reality you do not.

If you want to feel like your car is the fastest tC out there put it on a Dynojet and they'll give you nice numbers that will make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

You must remember, Dyno's regardless of the type are tuning tools, and are in no means meant to tell people how fast their car is. Now which one is more "real world" is a totally different question. I like to explain it like this..... If you drive your car in a situation in which you have no mass and you're in a vacuum, so basically if you do intergalactic racing in space, use a DynoJet. If your car sees gravity, and has an aerodynamic coefficient, and you race on a planet called Earth, then use a Mustang Dyno.


Lethal Injection Motorsports Mustang Dyno

My 07' tC

Magnaflow Catback Exhaust (NOTICE CAT-BACK NOT AXLE-BACK)
NST Pulley Set
Injen CAI
Strup 4-1 Header
Invidia S-pipe
DME front strut bar
TRD shocks and springs

If i'm not mistaken that's every bolt-on possible

ALL MOTOR w/ BOLT ONS

Mustang Dyno - 145hp/141tq

w/ Nitrous 75 shot wet

Mustang Dyno - 200hp/222tq

That's with a full 1200 PSI bottle setup for 75 shot, purged and ready to fire.



That's on a real dyno that can have a load added to it.

I took it to a Dynojet the all motor dyno would be somewhere near 175whp and the nitrous dyno would be near 230whp but those are not realistic numbers.

Once again monster torque curve, this is what you gain from nitrous, not whp. With nitrous you're looking for the jolt that comes with rods and pistons suddenly slamming that would propel you so you don't need to rely as much on the hp to keep you ahead.

You inject nitrous a certain distance away from the MAF as not to throw it off and not too close to the throttle body. You can tell if you have this right or not because nitrous will arrive to the motor much quicker than the accompanying fuel and it will bog the motor until the fuel arrives then you'll feel the jolt.

I dealt with nitrous for a while so you can't tell me something that just isn't remotely true. Nitrous is not some type of miracle sauce; you need to be aware that the tC's internals are not made for the type of jolting nitrous does and maxes the stock injectors at anything over a 75 shot.

And here is my install, as stealth as possible, the only dead give away was the bottle but I eventually got a blanket, heater, etc. for the bottle so it just looked like a black mini-duffel bag.

Not to mention the numerous safety precautions that you need to have in place, you don't just go out spraying, bad things can happen.













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Sorry to thread jack, I had to go off on my tirade. I now return you to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress
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Originally Posted by Mrsanchez925
Im not saying he's a bad person or anything like that lol..

Im just saying his business "priority's" Dont seem to be set straight thats all.

its not just the whole 2 year waiting ordeal for the TC guy.

hence this post also

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=257117 ...

but yeah back on topic!

id say forced induction for sure !
There are 2 sides to every story just yesterday or the day before Todd came in and gave his side. He gave a lot of concessions, many of which he did not have to do.

Most people I know who have been waiting for Todd are perfectly content waiting for him, they don't really complain so to each their own.



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