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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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He sounds like a great and very talented guy but is business practices are terrible.
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ecko04
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actually ya my fault... when i posted my numbers for the 65 shot i was including bolt ons... my fault...

here is a dyno result of a 75 shot on a bone stock tc... before and after results...

http://www.nitrousforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361

he reached a lil over 200 whp with a 75 shot with NO additional addons... btw... check how high his torque is ... 258 torqe... WOW...

now add bolt ons to that and you can get to the 215 to 220 range... also not mentioned is the kind of kit he has, and where its injecting... depending on those factors... you could even see a bit more power
You are once again completely WRONG!!

His numbers are on a DYNOJET which do not have the ability to have a load added to it, they are just some inflate your ego dyno's and are not representative of real world numbers. I told you this in a message about how your complete disregard for the type of dyno is going to lead you to think you have a car capable of having xxx amount of whp when in reality you do not.

If you want to feel like your car is the fastest tC out there put it on a Dynojet and they'll give you nice numbers that will make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

You must remember, Dyno's regardless of the type are tuning tools, and are in no means meant to tell people how fast their car is. Now which one is more "real world" is a totally different question. I like to explain it like this..... If you drive your car in a situation in which you have no mass and you're in a vacuum, so basically if you do intergalactic racing in space, use a DynoJet. If your car sees gravity, and has an aerodynamic coefficient, and you race on a planet called Earth, then use a Mustang Dyno.


Lethal Injection Motorsports Mustang Dyno

My 07' tC

Magnaflow Catback Exhaust (NOTICE CAT-BACK NOT AXLE-BACK)
NST Pulley Set
Injen CAI
Strup 4-1 Header
Invidia S-pipe
DME front strut bar
TRD shocks and springs

If i'm not mistaken that's every bolt-on possible

ALL MOTOR w/ BOLT ONS

Mustang Dyno - 145hp/141tq

w/ Nitrous 75 shot wet

Mustang Dyno - 200hp/222tq

That's with a full 1200 PSI bottle setup for 75 shot, purged and ready to fire.



That's on a real dyno that can have a load added to it.

I took it to a Dynojet the all motor dyno would be somewhere near 175whp and the nitrous dyno would be near 230whp but those are not realistic numbers.

Once again monster torque curve, this is what you gain from nitrous, not whp. With nitrous you're looking for the jolt that comes with rods and pistons suddenly slamming that would propel you so you don't need to rely as much on the hp to keep you ahead.

You inject nitrous a certain distance away from the MAF as not to throw it off and not too close to the throttle body. You can tell if you have this right or not because nitrous will arrive to the motor much quicker than the accompanying fuel and it will bog the motor until the fuel arrives then you'll feel the jolt.

I dealt with nitrous for a while so you can't tell me something that just isn't remotely true. Nitrous is not some type of miracle sauce; you need to be aware that the tC's internals are not made for the type of jolting nitrous does and maxes the stock injectors at anything over a 75 shot.

And here is my install, as stealth as possible, the only dead give away was the bottle but I eventually got a blanket, heater, etc. for the bottle so it just looked like a black mini-duffel bag.

Not to mention the numerous safety precautions that you need to have in place, you don't just go out spraying, bad things can happen.













you HONESTLY think the mustang dyno is more realistic because it shows a lower number??? DUDE GET REAL!!!

the tc STOCK comes in around 140-145 whp..... if you think the mustang dyno is the best one, then your tc came in stock somewhere around 115 whp....

if you want to believe that, thats fine.... NO CAR IN THE WORLD is going to go from 161 crank to 110 or 115 wheel....

a mustang dyno is not better because it shows lower numbers... its well known that tc's generally lose around 20 whp or so to the wheels... so anything that clocks a TC in at 140 range at the wheel is reading it just right...

go ahead and think you are running 145 at the wheel with all those addons if you want... either you bought a lemon or u are COMPLETELY wrong about which dyno is more accurate...

and btw... check my facts??? i must be lying about buying a 10 lb bottle for $26 right??

give me a break
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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The mustang dyno is better for TUNING because it can impose a load. It helps the tuner adjust the car for real world road pulls instead of a 2 second ultra fast no resistance pull. As far as more accurate, I'm not going to pretend I know how to build a dyno or calibrate one so I'll leave that one up to the p!ssing contest.
Old Jul 14, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:08 AM
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hehe.

well as far as the original threads direction im now looking for a dezod kit.

if anyone can point me in the direction of a good dealer for a good price would be appreciated
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:29 AM
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dezod kits are only sold by dezod? dezod.com
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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do u know if everything that comes with there kit is all i need? no cams or valves recommended?
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:40 AM
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last i checked, i saw a magazine article where the head was bone stock but the bottom end (and everything else) was built like a brick sh!thouse and they were putting down 700+. I'd leave the head alone. 6 psi doesn't usually require engine/fuel management but it never hurts and will yield your 220 hp goals.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:53 AM
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lol ok. 220 is what im shooting for but who knows what will happen once i get there.

also if anyone knows of thee best tuners in socal id appreciate some info
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:54 AM
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lol ok. 220 is what im shooting for but who knows what will happen once i get there.

also if anyone knows of thee best tuners in socal id appreciate some info
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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u will easily make over 220 if u turbo it.

Ur motor is good up to 400whp..

but to be on the safe side i would go above 350 lol
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 04:02 AM
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to be honest, Dynojets dont read that much higher.

i was tuned on a dynojet, and i was also did a few pools on a dynodynamics.

it was only off about 12whp.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrsanchez925
u will easily make over 220 if u turbo it.

Ur motor is good up to 400whp..

but to be on the safe side i would go above 350 lol
LOL I don't go above 300 and that's running slightly on the rich side. I guess I play it super safe.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ecko04
Originally Posted by Mrsanchez925
u will easily make over 220 if u turbo it.

Ur motor is good up to 400whp..

but to be on the safe side i would go above 350 lol
LOL I don't go above 300 and that's running slightly on the rich side. I guess I play it super safe.
lol to be honest with u im at 284. and im kinda sketched out to even go over that... lol
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Thanks for dropping the science ecko. It's always refreshing to see people that really know their isht.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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add a 75 shot nitrous....then when u need an oil change or something warranteed undo the lines under the hood simple takes 5 mins
Old Jul 16, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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im staying away from the spray. lol
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CityWingz
yeah. i would like to go turbo, honestly. But right now im sitting at 30k miles and i still have 20k to go till my warranty ends, i think.

Lol yeah i knew i couldn't get far without a s/c but i guess my question was as far as internals and such whats the best way to get some more horsies.

gotta be more specific next time i guess :-)
run a compression test on your engine - if all 4 cylinders are the same number your rings are good .... get a turbo and run it at 5lbs of boost - you will get your 220ish mark on hp and torque.

Then when your warranty is up put it up to 7 or 10lbs boost. Run a compression test after a few weeks of driving w/ the turbo and then do that a few months later. You should see all 4 compression levels around the same number (and they should be around 180lbs each).
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