That looks just...Weird.

 

I drove a tC with a TWM...and retried it twice to make sure. Too short for me. If you know about the alternatives, it's TWM-height or stock, basically. If you wanted something in between, you basically had two choices: the Perrin, or using a TWM shift **** (countersunk to offer up to 1.5 inches shorter than standard shift **** height with any given shifter).

The Perrin, according to Perrin's documentation (http://www.perrinperformance.com/Pro...rt_Shifter.htm, is adjustable *and* intended for the tC (as well as the xA and XB). Add to that the fact that I'd sent email to Perrin's tech department inquiring specifically about it's fit with the tC and their answer ("up to two inches shorter than [the tC's] stock" height), and there should have been no "might fit" about it. *And* the Perrin should have been the most flexible height solution as well as a uniquely adjustable length throw solution.

So if all the available info were true, it would have been the most flexible solution that wouldn't have run into the "too short for me" problem.

So, um, yeah, I did my research and made my choice based on that...unfortunately, it seems some of what I took to be truth ("adjustable up to two inches shorter...") may have been false.

 

shadowhawk did you measure your throws, I looked on my tape it's 3" not 3 1/2" sorry, well looks like I’m still going to have to look around for a Short Shifter that fits what I want, really short throws, hopefully I can find some people in Louisville with a few of the Short Shifters out there that I can try and see or even in Denver I'm there once a month. if not then I'll manage.

 

Hey,

So I finally got a chance to do some measurements.

I measured from the seam in the center console where STAT had his tape measure sitting to the point on the shift **** diameter that was closest to that seam. I used a tape measure and actually measured all the way to the seam, though, since I couldn't be sure to have the same size tape measure as STAT. It's mostly the differences that count, right?

So...

From seam to center position (back of ****), just under 15 inches (like maybe an eighth of an inch under). From seam to back of **** while in 3rd gear, about 16 1/4 inches. From seam to back of **** whilein 4th gear, about 13 1/2 inches. Height from center of the plastic silver border around the shift boot to the top of the shift **** while in 3rd, 6 inches (hm I might need to double-check that one).

So the throw from center to third is 1 1/4 inches, and the throw from center to fourth is 1 1/2 inches.

It kinda looks like you mixed up your measurements for third and fourth, so correcting for that, your throw from center to third is 1 3/4 inches, and from center to fourth, your throw appears to be 1 3/4 inches.

So it looks like the Perrin shifter shortens the throw from center to third by about a half inch, and the throw from center to fourth by about a quarter inch.

I guess I was somehow figuring on bigger differences, but percentage-wise (I'm not gonna do the math right now), 20-30% of say 1.75 inches is not really that big.

hm.

 

ya it's about 30% less, but not 200, which is the main reason I was looking into it, but at least it's shorter, I did flip the #'s for 3rd and 4th, but the travel was 1 3/4" for both, that I checked a bunch of times.

 

If everyone is worried about TWM being too short, just buy the stage 1 short shifter. They make 2 shifters for our car (go to www.twmperformance.com). The stage 1 is less aggressive than the 2. The stage 2 is what most people got before there were any sages to begin with.

 

feh. I figured to the 200% was some marketing gimmick or based on some weird way of measuring anyway. How can something be shorter by more than 100%?

 

joe@dezod, I'm not worried about the hight of the shifter, I just want the shortest throws posable, I drive my friends sti (the other guy who posts under my name) from time to time, and I like how little you have to move,
I did figure out how it could have been done it was a marketing thing but I can't remember how, it was like 6 weeks ago. so I'm guessing that twm stage 2 is like 40% shorter so I think that's the shortest so far, unless I'm mistaken

 

I have the Perrin shifter and I love it. The throws are much shorter and tighter than stock. I've sat in many other cars with other short shifters and they all seem sloppy compared to Perrin. The height isn't reduced that much which I like, I didn't want a short, stumpy shifter.

Yes, it's originally made for the xA/xB. My fiance deals with Perrin at work and after I bought my tC they sent me this shifter to test fit. My fiance, Chico, installed it and it was crooked the first time. After some dirty looks I had it straightened out so no more weird bend.

Some locals bought this shifter after trying mine but after driving their cars with it installed it feels a little different. I guess you just need to get the "Chico Install" if you want the same feeling I have. I actually _____ed the first 24 hours that it was TOO short until I got used to it.

 

i installed this shifter yesterday and i hate everything about it. i think it is horrible advertising and a way to make more sales just because it fits a tc doesnt mean it shoudl belong on one as a TWM or CC alternative... i can see how it would work very nice for an xa or xb but i hate it on my tc and i am going to cut and continue the threads farther down to shorted the height.. very dissatisfied...

 

This was one of the first modifcations I did to my car. I loved it.

I had to do ALOT of custom fitting and shaving of the stock shifter housing in order to install it correctly.

make sure that you checked the cables... they rubbed for the longest time and you will need to shave it to make sure that there the correct amount of play. the shifts are very quick.. me likey.

still feels like stock hight, but now has very quick transitions between gears.

comp.

 

So the Perrin's are suppose to have that bend?

 

perrin is POS if you ask me.. i baught one.. and that thing is designed for an xb or xa but since it fit the tc they said.. its designed for tc too.. its not. i went twm stage 2 and i have kicked myself for not doing that in the beginning.. perrin is crap ..

 

Theres mixed reviews...haha

Carl, is it suppose to have that bend?

 

yeah mine had it too.. when i put the shifter **** back on it looked all kinds of funky like i was trying to drive an 18 wheel truck or something.. where is the hi/low splitter? hahaha