The automatic is more money to start off with (about $1000).. And it's going to take even more money to get it as fast as a stock manual transmition.

If the tC had a better automatic transmition it would be different (like an LS1 or even an LT1).. but the transmition is setup for fuel economy and that's it.. That's why it gets better gas mileage then the manual tC when it's normally the other way around.

I say if you're interested in fuel economy, get an automatic tC.
If you're interested in performanceost, get a manual.

 

..If you go on kbb.com and check the trade-in value on a 2005 tC, it doesn't matter if you put automatic or manual, it's the same price.. Mine has 18,000 miles.. I used excellent condition.... I tryed automatic & manual and the price was the same ($15,325)..

 

That's not really a reason to buy an auto... more like a reason why it's not bad to buy an auto.

 

one more reason not to buy auto... just incase it hasnt been said yet...

Automatics are just not much fun to drive

 

Theres a difference between fair market value, and the book value on the car.

It is a known issue, with all cars, than an automatics generally sell for higher than manuals.

The blue book value of the tC right now isnt going to be much different between the automatic and the manual, but in a year or 2 or 3, you will see how the automatic tC's are selling for more than manual tC's.

 

hmmm thats weird.... i think my auto tC is very fun to drive.

i used to drive a 93 Nissan Altima, so maybe its relative?

Either way, i love driving my tC and i think its still fun to drive.

 

Kelly blue book is very fair.. I know of 3 dealerships around here that go by kbb.com when you trade in a car.. Whatever kbb says, that's what they give you (as long as the condition matches what you entered into kbb).

You won't get $1 more for that automatic transmition that cost you $1,000 extra initially.

 

What i'm trying to tell you, is that KBB and fair market value are 2 different things.
This isnt about KBB being fair.

And as for not getting any more money for the auto tranny, car history must be lying to us, because automatics have ALWAYS held their value better than manuals.

Maybe you won't see this initially. Down the road in a few years you will.

 

It's possible, but I highly doubt it.. The car would be worth more right now if that was true.. There's no reason that the resale is going to drop on a manual more then an automatic if it hasn't already.

 

I'll race your manual against my auto when its done at ZPI any day. I'll make you want an Auto.

 

Of course there is, the demand for the tC is so high right now, people will pay ridiculous prices [fair market value], just to get their hands on one.

In a few years, the fair market value of the cars will drop to book value, and this is when you will see the automatic selling for more than the manual.

 

believe me, I will not be jealous.. I choose the cheaper/faster model (manual)..

my manual tC only has 2 performance mods (header and CAI). i'll be glad to race an automatic with equal mods, and i'll make you want a manual.. it wouldn't even be close.

what's the fastest automatic running in the quarter? i don't even think they're in the 13s yet..

just remember when you get your car from ZPI that you could of had a faster car for less money with the same exact turbo.

let's see how much money you'll have to throw into it just to make it as fast as a manual.

 

*turn downs **** on testerone level*

this thread is not a debate on whats faster, the original poster wanted to know if an automatic could be made fast, and the answer is yes, the auto tC can be fast.

the manual tC does respond better to mods, but that isnt the debate here.

 

Well, I'll tell you what, if this thread is still going in 2-3 years then I guess it'll be settled. Until then neither of us has any proof.

 

Agreed.

 

*turns down **** on power trip level*

The title of the thread is "Should I feel stupid for buying an A/T?", everything I said is related to this topic..

Just because you personally don't like what people say in the thread doesn't mean you should lock it.

Everything I said was related to the subject, if you don't like it, then don't read it.

 

excuse me, i only said that before ANOTHER pointless debate began about automatics and manuals. and yes i DO have the power to come in and lock a thread if i see it is getting out of hand. I never said i disliked anything anyone said in this thread. I am a moderator, and if something is out of place, it is my responsibilty to take action.

 

Yes, Mr. moderator, we all know you have the "great power" of clicking on a button that says 'lock'..

Everything said in this thread is related to the topic, but, if you want, lock another good thread.. saving the world 1 thread at a time, right?

Anyways.. back to the topic..

manual > automatic

 

This is not related to the topic, and I'm not arguing with you anymore. Unfortunetely, you have caused me to lock this thread.