Umnitza's CarbonWerks Intake...2 Pics and Video!
Originally Posted by whitexa
i'm actually curious to see where it draws air from, other then the opening in the front. but i think the price is ok, but like to see it a little cheaper thou..
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actually it would be nice if there's an extension from the front opening to the front upper grill, like how they do it with the 3 series, then that way it'll be drawing air from out side where it's clean and cold. I hope you know what i'm talking about...
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actually it would be nice if there's an extension from the front opening to the front upper grill, like how they do it with the 3 series, then that way it'll be drawing air from out side where it's clean and cold. I hope you know what i'm talking about...
yeah i get what u sayin...its a really good idea too...but you can make ur own if u get this intake...just get a small pipe and connect it to the opening on top of the fuse box...have the pipe lead out to the girrle or sumthin...sweet clean and cold air..yummy!!!
Fun:
Dyno run - 1 - stock completely stock, stocker than stock, the most stock you can possibly stock, the stockiest. Nate thinks his car is stock, so do I.
Dyno run - 2 - not so stock, a lot less stock, Nate and I are pretty pleased with the lack of stockiness aka 8HP, 8TQ approximate with better A/F ratio.
Dyno run - 3 - no time between not so stock run and the next not so stock run - heat soak showing a bit, number still not very stocky - 7HP, 6TQ
Dyno run - 4 - less than 1 minute between the two not so stocky's and this one - heat soak playing a larger role, but stockiness long since a memory - 5HP, 3TQ.
What did we gleam from this? Damn fine intake - all the guys at the dyno place as witnesses (all 5 of them), none of whom care one bit about this car or this intake, nor did they particular have time to run this, so they were pretty shocked at the changes - they expected far less than even some of you. They were pleased and so were we.
Fact:
A/F ratio was greatly affected by the addition of the intake.
One thing noted was that the lean condition was lengthier with the addition of the intake, clearly the ECU had not adjusted.
Look at this objectively and it will be quite clear that this intake does what it's supposed to - PROVIDE MORE AIR.
The engine is a pump, put more fuel and more air in it and spark it quicker and you get more power.
The intake created a longer than stock lean condition because the car was getting more air than the ECU was accustomed to seeing, thus, when the proper amount of fuel was finally dumped into the motor - per the A/F ratio dip below Stoich - you got an immediate increase in power.
This isn't rocket science. the ECU will adapt over time to send more fuel to the motor due to the increased air flow. While greater overall gains cannot be predicted, more USEABLE gains WILL be available. That means, over time, the power will appear sooner, probably feel more responsive, and potentially deliver worse gas economy.
Basically, the dyno proves one thing and one thing alone, this intake is really a pretty good design, gathering air from two locations and filtering it without too much degradation in flow.
If you don't have this intake because you were waiting on some sort of "proof" - you have it in spades.
As has been said before:
Sound, build quality, looks, and power <-- no other intake has it ALL for such a price.
Picture:

Where:
http://www.umnitza.com/product_info....roducts_id=272
THIS IS FOR THE MAZDA3, we're off to go pick up the intakes NOW.
Dyno run - 1 - stock completely stock, stocker than stock, the most stock you can possibly stock, the stockiest. Nate thinks his car is stock, so do I.
Dyno run - 2 - not so stock, a lot less stock, Nate and I are pretty pleased with the lack of stockiness aka 8HP, 8TQ approximate with better A/F ratio.
Dyno run - 3 - no time between not so stock run and the next not so stock run - heat soak showing a bit, number still not very stocky - 7HP, 6TQ
Dyno run - 4 - less than 1 minute between the two not so stocky's and this one - heat soak playing a larger role, but stockiness long since a memory - 5HP, 3TQ.
What did we gleam from this? Damn fine intake - all the guys at the dyno place as witnesses (all 5 of them), none of whom care one bit about this car or this intake, nor did they particular have time to run this, so they were pretty shocked at the changes - they expected far less than even some of you. They were pleased and so were we.
Fact:
A/F ratio was greatly affected by the addition of the intake.
One thing noted was that the lean condition was lengthier with the addition of the intake, clearly the ECU had not adjusted.
Look at this objectively and it will be quite clear that this intake does what it's supposed to - PROVIDE MORE AIR.
The engine is a pump, put more fuel and more air in it and spark it quicker and you get more power.
The intake created a longer than stock lean condition because the car was getting more air than the ECU was accustomed to seeing, thus, when the proper amount of fuel was finally dumped into the motor - per the A/F ratio dip below Stoich - you got an immediate increase in power.
This isn't rocket science. the ECU will adapt over time to send more fuel to the motor due to the increased air flow. While greater overall gains cannot be predicted, more USEABLE gains WILL be available. That means, over time, the power will appear sooner, probably feel more responsive, and potentially deliver worse gas economy.
Basically, the dyno proves one thing and one thing alone, this intake is really a pretty good design, gathering air from two locations and filtering it without too much degradation in flow.
If you don't have this intake because you were waiting on some sort of "proof" - you have it in spades.
As has been said before:
Sound, build quality, looks, and power <-- no other intake has it ALL for such a price.
Picture:

Where:
http://www.umnitza.com/product_info....roducts_id=272
THIS IS FOR THE MAZDA3, we're off to go pick up the intakes NOW.
Originally Posted by umnitza
Fun:
Dyno run - 1 - stock completely stock, stocker than stock, the most stock you can possibly stock, the stockiest. Nate thinks his car is stock, so do I.
Dyno run - 2 - not so stock, a lot less stock, Nate and I are pretty pleased with the lack of stockiness aka 8HP, 8TQ approximate with better A/F ratio.
Dyno run - 3 - no time between not so stock run and the next not so stock run - heat soak showing a bit, number still not very stocky - 7HP, 6TQ
Dyno run - 4 - less than 1 minute between the two not so stocky's and this one - heat soak playing a larger role, but stockiness long since a memory - 5HP, 3TQ.
What did we gleam from this? Damn fine intake - all the guys at the dyno place as witnesses (all 5 of them), none of whom care one bit about this car or this intake, nor did they particular have time to run this, so they were pretty shocked at the changes - they expected far less than even some of you. They were pleased and so were we.
Fact:
A/F ratio was greatly affected by the addition of the intake.
One thing noted was that the lean condition was lengthier with the addition of the intake, clearly the ECU had not adjusted.
Look at this objectively and it will be quite clear that this intake does what it's supposed to - PROVIDE MORE AIR.
The engine is a pump, put more fuel and more air in it and spark it quicker and you get more power.
The intake created a longer than stock lean condition because the car was getting more air than the ECU was accustomed to seeing, thus, when the proper amount of fuel was finally dumped into the motor - per the A/F ratio dip below Stoich - you got an immediate increase in power.
This isn't rocket science. the ECU will adapt over time to send more fuel to the motor due to the increased air flow. While greater overall gains cannot be predicted, more USEABLE gains WILL be available. That means, over time, the power will appear sooner, probably feel more responsive, and potentially deliver worse gas economy.
Basically, the dyno proves one thing and one thing alone, this intake is really a pretty good design, gathering air from two locations and filtering it without too much degradation in flow.
If you don't have this intake because you were waiting on some sort of "proof" - you have it in spades.
As has been said before:
Sound, build quality, looks, and power <-- no other intake has it ALL for such a price.
Picture:

Where:
http://www.umnitza.com/product_info....roducts_id=272
THIS IS FOR THE MAZDA3, we're off to go pick up the intakes NOW.
Dyno run - 1 - stock completely stock, stocker than stock, the most stock you can possibly stock, the stockiest. Nate thinks his car is stock, so do I.
Dyno run - 2 - not so stock, a lot less stock, Nate and I are pretty pleased with the lack of stockiness aka 8HP, 8TQ approximate with better A/F ratio.
Dyno run - 3 - no time between not so stock run and the next not so stock run - heat soak showing a bit, number still not very stocky - 7HP, 6TQ
Dyno run - 4 - less than 1 minute between the two not so stocky's and this one - heat soak playing a larger role, but stockiness long since a memory - 5HP, 3TQ.
What did we gleam from this? Damn fine intake - all the guys at the dyno place as witnesses (all 5 of them), none of whom care one bit about this car or this intake, nor did they particular have time to run this, so they were pretty shocked at the changes - they expected far less than even some of you. They were pleased and so were we.
Fact:
A/F ratio was greatly affected by the addition of the intake.
One thing noted was that the lean condition was lengthier with the addition of the intake, clearly the ECU had not adjusted.
Look at this objectively and it will be quite clear that this intake does what it's supposed to - PROVIDE MORE AIR.
The engine is a pump, put more fuel and more air in it and spark it quicker and you get more power.
The intake created a longer than stock lean condition because the car was getting more air than the ECU was accustomed to seeing, thus, when the proper amount of fuel was finally dumped into the motor - per the A/F ratio dip below Stoich - you got an immediate increase in power.
This isn't rocket science. the ECU will adapt over time to send more fuel to the motor due to the increased air flow. While greater overall gains cannot be predicted, more USEABLE gains WILL be available. That means, over time, the power will appear sooner, probably feel more responsive, and potentially deliver worse gas economy.
Basically, the dyno proves one thing and one thing alone, this intake is really a pretty good design, gathering air from two locations and filtering it without too much degradation in flow.
If you don't have this intake because you were waiting on some sort of "proof" - you have it in spades.
As has been said before:
Sound, build quality, looks, and power <-- no other intake has it ALL for such a price.
Picture:

Where:
http://www.umnitza.com/product_info....roducts_id=272
THIS IS FOR THE MAZDA3, we're off to go pick up the intakes NOW.
ok that was odd I finally see a dyno but for a Mazda, granted I understand showing how your products are but shouldn't that have been posted on a Mazda forum? or maybe I should go to one and look for a TC dyno? oh well, I'll try later. and just remember the only time people really get offended, is when it's true.
we wish to apologize! the intakes did not arrive.
the folks at Bobac claimed that traffice was too heavy and thus they are arriving first thing tomorrow.
The labels are all made, each and every single one of them will go out as soon as they arrive tomorrow between 12-2pm Pacific.
We are at a trade show in Florida tomorrow, thus, only a skeleton staff will be handling the shipments. If your shipment doesn't make it out and some of you are more urgent than others (faster shipping requests) it will go out as soon as we return on Monday.
the folks at Bobac claimed that traffice was too heavy and thus they are arriving first thing tomorrow.
The labels are all made, each and every single one of them will go out as soon as they arrive tomorrow between 12-2pm Pacific.
We are at a trade show in Florida tomorrow, thus, only a skeleton staff will be handling the shipments. If your shipment doesn't make it out and some of you are more urgent than others (faster shipping requests) it will go out as soon as we return on Monday.
I for one will never buy anything from Umnitza.
Your attitude is unbelievable.
You make it sound like you're doing your customers a favor.
It's funny I was pimping this intake on yoursciontc.com as an interesting alternative, it was in my top 3 things to get over the next few months, but after the responses here, i'll take my business elsewhere.
Your attitude is unbelievable.
You make it sound like you're doing your customers a favor.
It's funny I was pimping this intake on yoursciontc.com as an interesting alternative, it was in my top 3 things to get over the next few months, but after the responses here, i'll take my business elsewhere.
My intake MUST go out tomorrow or I will be very upset. You said those with fastest shipping will go out first so I expect mine to go out ASAP. Thanks for what support you HAVE shown and I do hope future business will go much better.
Umnitza is really letting the community down. First the shipping, then the Dyno. Everyones been asking for a dyno, so you post one up preceeded by a lot of type and hype, followed by the dyno. Then you say it's for the Mazda? WTF!? Your still being shady! I understand that the designs and engines are similar, but you should totally post that this is the Mazda dyno at the BEGINNING of the post, not at the end.
Originally Posted by angry jonnie
I for one will never buy anything from Umnitza.
Your attitude is unbelievable.
You make it sound like you're doing your customers a favor.
It's funny I was pimping this intake on yoursciontc.com as an interesting alternative, it was in my top 3 things to get over the next few months, but after the responses here, i'll take my business elsewhere.
Your attitude is unbelievable.
You make it sound like you're doing your customers a favor.
It's funny I was pimping this intake on yoursciontc.com as an interesting alternative, it was in my top 3 things to get over the next few months, but after the responses here, i'll take my business elsewhere.
We're not doing ANYONE a "favor".
1) we're keeping those that order informed of every step of the shipping <-- yeah, many vendors dont' really do that.
2) We're doing our best to answer the questions as best we can with limited install test beds.
3) Every question is answered as fast as possible via email.
You want a great product from a great company that keeps you informed and doesn't let you down? That's the function of a good company.
You bark or bite at us for no reason? you get it back. Let's get back to maturity.
Your community will only benefit from this intake and we're very very eager to provide it to you as best and quickly as we can and we hope to answer ALL your questions to teh best of our ability.
Good day and get some sleep.
Originally Posted by tijsdtrancer
is this bad boy carb legal?? sorry im a bum in cali.. 
IF there is enough demand for this product, we may just do that.
Originally Posted by STAT
ok that was odd I finally see a dyno but for a Mazda, granted I understand showing how your products are but shouldn't that have been posted on a Mazda forum? or maybe I should go to one and look for a TC dyno? oh well, I'll try later. and just remember the only time people really get offended, is when it's true.
If you have every watched dynos - I've watched perhaps 15 at this point, MOST intakes will not make more than 2-5HP and 2-5TQ.
This intake made 8 on both until the heat soak set in because the runs were too close together (3-5 minutes apart).
What can we say, anyone that has this dyno (about 12 of them) will tell you the butt dyno really does not lie, this thing makes power and makes it immediately.
But of course, we'll eventually get a dyno together, the original poster of this thread will likely be the guy that does it.
Well butt dynos lie and lie according to expectations.
I just think it's silly to not buy from someone or some company because of his her or their attitude.
Soup **** anyone?
I would buy an awesome intake from an **** if it was worth it.
But I just have to ask one thing, umnitza, could you prove that it's worth it? Mazda3 has a different intake tract than the tC so it's like comparing red apple prices to determine the price and yield of a green apple.
I just think it's silly to not buy from someone or some company because of his her or their attitude.
Soup **** anyone?
I would buy an awesome intake from an **** if it was worth it.
But I just have to ask one thing, umnitza, could you prove that it's worth it? Mazda3 has a different intake tract than the tC so it's like comparing red apple prices to determine the price and yield of a green apple.
Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
I just think it's silly to not buy from someone or some company because of his her or their attitude.
Soup **** anyone?
Soup **** anyone?
It's kinda like when you see a totally hot chick at the bar, then you talk to her and she has bad breath and smelly pits. It kinda ruins the whole package. That's what Umnitza is to me: a hot chick with bad breath and smally pits. Maybe some of you can deal with that, but I sure can't.
Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
Well butt dynos lie and lie according to expectations.
I just think it's silly to not buy from someone or some company because of his her or their attitude.
Soup **** anyone?
I would buy an awesome intake from an **** if it was worth it.
But I just have to ask one thing, umnitza, could you prove that it's worth it? Mazda3 has a different intake tract than the tC so it's like comparing red apple prices to determine the price and yield of a green apple.
I just think it's silly to not buy from someone or some company because of his her or their attitude.
Soup **** anyone?
I would buy an awesome intake from an **** if it was worth it.
But I just have to ask one thing, umnitza, could you prove that it's worth it? Mazda3 has a different intake tract than the tC so it's like comparing red apple prices to determine the price and yield of a green apple.
Now, intakes are arriving today between 10-2pm, I'm at the airport, but my employees will handle the shipments today. Hopefully, you'll all have the benefit of these intakes within the next week.
As far as proof? Here's the greatest proof of all - on the Mazda3 the amount of air going into the intake increased by 3-5%, that's HUGE and translates into that 8HP max gain we saw on the dyno.
We'll get dynos after a month or so.





