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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe

Simple kit - $2500
Exhaust - $500
Boost Gauge, Oil Pressure, Wideband - $450
Mount for Gauges - $100
Fuel Management - $1000
Clutch - $1000 (installed)
Tune - $400
Oil + filter - $50
Tapped Oil pan - $100
lets run through all of this again with cheaper prices....

simple kit - 2500
exhaust - not absolutely needed
boostgauge, oil pressure,wideband - 30+30+150
mount for gauges - DIY waterfall gauge setting
Fuel management - 1000
oil + filter - 50
tapped oil pan - 100..unless you DIY.


you would amount to give or take 3000

if you boost on a budget, prepare yourself for A LOT of dirt under your nails.
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by aen
install it yourse.f keep the stock exhaust be VERY careful with your money. get pro sport's 30 dollar gauges, don't get a new clutch/don't boost it over 5 pounds...make sure you get the emanage and make sure you can tune the thing yourself.
After reading a lot of the pages on scionlife i dont think its a good idea installin and tunning on ur own car how did urs turn out?
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 02:42 AM
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it actually isn't hard on emanage, that's why i said emanage

dezod has a base tune for our cars and it makes it pretty easy

don't get f/ic it's hard to learn

you could also do custom kit.

it's really easy to keep under budget with a custom kit...i can help you if you want.

before i got my clutch installed and new tires and new piping i was still under 5k for turbo
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well i understand how u did emanage on ur own but wat about installing the turbo kit urself i wuld prefer a proffesional do it
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don't, it's not hard at all...you're just wasting money, putting on a turbo kit that is already built for your car is like bolting on a intake or exhaust....everything is cut for you already.

installation is like 600 dollars that you can use for something else

i didn't do emanage, i have f/ic
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 02:56 AM
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well i guess that makes sense as long as u get a proffesional to look over it wen ur done n make sure everything is up to code
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you can do plenty with 6 g's turbo+tune= <5 g's
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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don't even have to get a pro to look at it...


put it on, if it idles funny then something is wrong.

if it idle's like stock then you're fine
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but dont u gotta take the front end off to get in there and install it?
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the bumper? it's not hard...it's like 8 screws and pull.
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I think 6,000 is pretty much enough to get a nice kit dezod S1 or TT basik or Stage 1, gauges, clutch is pretty much optional for a few month ( depends on the way you drive , some people used stock clutch for a year while being boosted)
Also you have to find a good install shop that will be able to tune your car as well....
Installation is VERY expencive. I went with TT i got an ok deal for the kit and GREAT deal on the installation and tuning !
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Originally Posted by aen
Originally Posted by CarbonXe

Simple kit - $2500
Exhaust - $500
Boost Gauge, Oil Pressure, Wideband - $450
Mount for Gauges - $100
Fuel Management - $1000
Clutch - $1000 (installed)
Tune - $400
Oil + filter - $50
Tapped Oil pan - $100
lets run through all of this again with cheaper prices....

simple kit - 2500
exhaust - not absolutely needed
boostgauge, oil pressure,wideband - 30+30+150
mount for gauges - DIY waterfall gauge setting
Fuel management - 1000
oil + filter - 50
tapped oil pan - 100..unless you DIY.


you would amount to give or take 3000

if you boost on a budget, prepare yourself for A LOT of dirt under your nails.
So you're pretty much telling him to go for 220whp with an un-reliable tune?

The tune is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.

And you added wrong, considering 2500+1000 is already over the 3000 total you came up with. It's more like almost $4000 for around 220whp, which is supercharger territory.
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Originally Posted by aen
Originally Posted by CarbonXe

Simple kit - $2500
Exhaust - $500
Boost Gauge, Oil Pressure, Wideband - $450
Mount for Gauges - $100
Fuel Management - $1000
Clutch - $1000 (installed)
Tune - $400
Oil + filter - $50
Tapped Oil pan - $100
lets run through all of this again with cheaper prices....

simple kit - 2500
exhaust - not absolutely needed
boostgauge, oil pressure,wideband - 30+30+150
mount for gauges - DIY waterfall gauge setting
Fuel management - 1000
oil + filter - 50
tapped oil pan - 100..unless you DIY.


you would amount to give or take 3000

if you boost on a budget, prepare yourself for A LOT of dirt under your nails.
So you're pretty much telling him to go for 220whp with an un-reliable tune?

The tune is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.

And you added wrong, considering 2500+1000 is already over the 3000 total you came up with. It's more like almost $4000 for around 220whp, which is supercharger territory.
well, you use emanage with dezod base tune = safe tune....specially for the time being, i mean he can be running that and not be at hte best HP till he gets a real tune. but it would still bea cheaper. the base tune is very reliable. it's made to be.

yea 220 supercharger territory..but with way more room to grow..

hey i'm just giving options...6k will net him something pretty reliable if he does it correctly

my bad on the adding lol. brain fart. but i mean...4k while at 220 turboed is pretty cool...get tht to work properly and spend another grand on a new turbo and you'd be at 300hp. and that's still under 6k...give or take

i'm just saying, there are ways around everything...it just takes some ingenuity and a well thought out plan.
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 04:41 AM
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well what are the op's horsepower goals? that would be a good starting point
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Have to say, I'd spend the money to get the car to handle better first and learn how to work on the simpler things before tackling a turbo set-up.

Set some money aside after the easier mods (springs, brakes, etc) and save for a turbo set-up as you learn about what you want and how to work on the car-then when you got the $$$ you will also know what you want and how to do it.
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Originally Posted by greybox
Have to say, I'd spend the money to get the car to handle better first and learn how to work on the simpler things before tackling a turbo set-up.

Set some money aside after the easier mods (springs, brakes, etc) and save for a turbo set-up as you learn about what you want and how to work on the car-then when you got the $$$ you will also know what you want and how to do it.
I was going off the assumption that tires and suspension was already done. If not, he needs another $2000 LOLZ.

Modding should be done in this order. (In terms of Function, not form)

1. Traction
2. Suspension
3. Power
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Well he doesnt really need 2,000 for suspension and tires...

I got my 18" EMX super 7 rims with pretty much brand new Pirelli tires -360 ( yes from my friend, yes i wanted to stay with 17 by 8 rim so i can put 245, but i just couldnt pass that kind foa deal , so if you look hard enough for the deal you'll find it )
Hotchkis sway bars-280
TRD lowering springs-174

Total: 815... not bad for this kind of set up right ?

P.S. I will ride on stock shocks untill they blow and it can take a few years actually.
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Whoops, typo lol, I meant $1000. $5-600 for new tires (+ mount/balance), 2-300 for sways, 200 for springs.
Old Jun 5, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Tires are the most important part of your car. I don't care if you have a 2000hp sacrament to internal combustion that runs on babies born out of wedlock under your hood; if all you have are the crappy S32A tires that Toyota pinches out of it's ___ for us, then all that power is wasted as you sit there trying to transfer it to the planet.

I'll repeat that, in case my point didn't get through enough.

TIRES ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR CAR

And not to overshadow CarbonXe with making more big, flashy text, I'll revise his statement to be more specific...
A TUNE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR ENGINE

If you're doing this with any sort of sense, you need to first price yourself some GOOD tires on Tire Rack. Then, you need to shop around local shops and have them talk to you about tuning your car. Then, you need to factor the price of those two things out of your budget. If you start sacrificing those two things for money, you're going to be sorely disappointed when you have a car you can't drive safely and it's either on fire or your tires have burst or you've skidded off the road into oblivion.
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Thanks .



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