Blue, Ultimate, or AEM piggyback?
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Originally Posted by malibuboy54
just cause the ultimate says that it can control vtec points, doesn't mean its "better" for it....most tuners anyways who have hondas, use a hondata, which is far superior for their cars.....the aem gives you the most freedom....
It gives you a decent hp and tq gain throughout the whole rpm range...about 24 ft lbs and 25whp on an auto...its about 700 or so for the reflash and the only downfall to it is that you hafta send out your engine immobilizer and key plus your ECU for doug at hondata to do the reflash for you
Well what I mean is, the Greddy has a VTEC (lift) controller and the AEM has cam timing control (which I suppose doesn't include lift) and better for the Toyota's no lift VVT-i.
Oh, and if you look at your tCs parts... most of them say Made in Japan... (and legally it is 100% Japanese, check the stickers before you bought the tC.)
Oh, and if you look at your tCs parts... most of them say Made in Japan... (and legally it is 100% Japanese, check the stickers before you bought the tC.)
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by forpinks
Fine I'll get AEM, I've researched a bit on FIC and found it to be more compatible with VVT-i than Ultimate which is good for VTEC...
Also if I use 550cc RC injectors will I see an increase in power even with the OE pump?
Also if I use 550cc RC injectors will I see an increase in power even with the OE pump?

Originally Posted by forpinks
Well what I mean is, the Greddy has a VTEC (lift) controller and the AEM has cam timing control (which I suppose doesn't include lift) and better for the Toyota's no lift VVT-i.
Oh, and if you look at your tCs parts... most of them say Made in Japan... (and legally it is 100% Japanese, check the stickers before you bought the tC.)
Oh, and if you look at your tCs parts... most of them say Made in Japan... (and legally it is 100% Japanese, check the stickers before you bought the tC.)
Hold on, malibu...your talking about the AEM EMS again (standalone) which those are all features of. We are talking about the AEM F/IC (piggyback) which can't do all that.
Let's give pinks a little rope since he SAID he did some reasearch. I just want to know if the reasearch he found said the AEM is better with vvti, or if he interpreted the reaserch to mean it was better.
Let's see what he does with that rope...
Let's give pinks a little rope since he SAID he did some reasearch. I just want to know if the reasearch he found said the AEM is better with vvti, or if he interpreted the reaserch to mean it was better.
Let's see what he does with that rope...
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Yeah, just cause it's made in Japan, does not mean it is better. I'm not made in japan, but I'm better then you, see!
j/k
j/k
dude, that's funny .. forpinks, don't tell me that you're installing your "kit" by yourself ..please dont do that ..
I can do mechanical and plug and play stuff, but I really suck at programming and uhh, engine management!
When I was in the Philippines, I used to (just for the hell of it) hang out at a friend's shop near my school when I was 16-17 as a pass time and I sorta had a crash course on working with Hondas (mostly blown VTEC engines), Mitsubishis (Carbs- 99 Lancers never played with MIVEC), and Toyotas (old carbs, 4A- GE/F/FE and 7A-FE) Also some carb bikes with 50-450cc motors. My friend and I used to take out old/blown engines and, we pretty much overhaul it using new, used, fabricated and remanufactured parts and reinstall it and make it run better than new, we even swapped a couple of engines, one is a KIA's version of the Ford Fiesta and we dropped in a 4A-FE in it we just dropped in the engine but didn't do the crazy made tranny job those other peeps did...
I'm pretty much saying that I'm more into actual stuff **** than the academic technical stuff. (I'm trying to learn the technical **** actually)
When I was in the Philippines, I used to (just for the hell of it) hang out at a friend's shop near my school when I was 16-17 as a pass time and I sorta had a crash course on working with Hondas (mostly blown VTEC engines), Mitsubishis (Carbs- 99 Lancers never played with MIVEC), and Toyotas (old carbs, 4A- GE/F/FE and 7A-FE) Also some carb bikes with 50-450cc motors. My friend and I used to take out old/blown engines and, we pretty much overhaul it using new, used, fabricated and remanufactured parts and reinstall it and make it run better than new, we even swapped a couple of engines, one is a KIA's version of the Ford Fiesta and we dropped in a 4A-FE in it we just dropped in the engine but didn't do the crazy made tranny job those other peeps did...
I'm pretty much saying that I'm more into actual stuff **** than the academic technical stuff. (I'm trying to learn the technical **** actually)
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Originally Posted by FMtC_krstnmj
wazzup mr. meaty, hey have you met this guy yet?
Should we invite him to the meet? I can't make it for a couple weeks. traveling for work.
you should meet up with us sometimes pinks.
Originally Posted by forpinks
When I was in the Philippines, I used to (just for the hell of it) hang out at a friend's shop near my school when I was 16-17 as a pass time and I sorta had a crash course on working with Hondas (mostly blown VTEC engines), Mitsubishis (Carbs- 99 Lancers never played with MIVEC), and Toyotas (old carbs, 4A- GE/F/FE and 7A-FE)
I never saw anything like that when I was in the Philipines, but I haven't been there since '91.
MR. MEATY, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU'RE A FILIPINO .. ARE YOU??
matt are you from the philippines too?
forpinks, are you from the philippines ??
fmtc_krstnmj, hey that's me .. im from the philippines ..
matt are you from the philippines too?
forpinks, are you from the philippines ??
fmtc_krstnmj, hey that's me .. im from the philippines ..
I was there till early 02... I'm really almost 27 now.
I actually see left side steering EVOs (mostly 3s and 5s) back in 00 and we installed a real JDM straight exhaust.
What sucks is I was some sort of apprentice and did it for free. (they dont pay me since I have a new car from "Erpatz")
I actually see left side steering EVOs (mostly 3s and 5s) back in 00 and we installed a real JDM straight exhaust.
What sucks is I was some sort of apprentice and did it for free. (they dont pay me since I have a new car from "Erpatz")





